Route Notes is a podcast for public health professionals, nonprofit leaders, educators, and changemakers navigating the real work of leadership in complex systems.
We’ve spent years working alongside leaders in public health, education, nonprofits, and advocacy. From board rooms to back roads, the challenges are always complex.
Route Notes shares stories, strategies, and lessons we’ve learned along the way—and introduces you to the people who’ve helped us navigate the terrain.
Because maps are made from the journeys behind us—not the road ahead.
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Route Notes is a podcast for public health professionals, nonprofit leaders, educators, and changemakers navigating the real work of leadership in complex systems.
We’ve spent years working alongside leaders in public health, education, nonprofits, and advocacy. From board rooms to back roads, the challenges are always complex.
Route Notes shares stories, strategies, and lessons we’ve learned along the way—and introduces you to the people who’ve helped us navigate the terrain.
Because maps are made from the journeys behind us—not the road ahead.
In this episode of Route Notes, David and Wes unpack the future of public health education against the backdrop of Campbell Cares Community Days—service-based learning grounded in interprofessional collaboration. They dive into the tension between machine-driven public health and the human-centered practice that's urgently needed, arguing that the curriculum of the future must move beyond technical training toward embedded community relationships, ethics, and real-time apprenticeship.
The episode explores real examples of students doing windshield surveys with tribal partners, running health fairs in unexpected places, and hosting deeply personal talking circles with survivors of violence. Along the way, they discuss the role of AI, the dangers of replacing lived experience with simulation, and why "fixing problems you can touch with people you know" might be the most important learning outcome of all.
Route Notes
Route Notes is a podcast for public health professionals, nonprofit leaders, educators, and changemakers navigating the real work of leadership in complex systems.
We’ve spent years working alongside leaders in public health, education, nonprofits, and advocacy. From board rooms to back roads, the challenges are always complex.
Route Notes shares stories, strategies, and lessons we’ve learned along the way—and introduces you to the people who’ve helped us navigate the terrain.
Because maps are made from the journeys behind us—not the road ahead.
