In this episode, Jeffrey talks to Dr. David Bray, PhD, who shares his extensive background in cybersecurity, national security and technology in the public sector. The conversation explores the accurate portrayal of cybersecurity in movies, the challenges of supply chain security, and the importance of deep hardware interrogation to ensure the integrity of technology. 

Dr. Bray emphasizes the need for proactive measures in cybersecurity and the significance of understanding the perception of reality in the context of social engineering and national security. They also dig into the evolving landscape of cybersecurity, focusing on the challenges posed by compromised hardware, the rise of scams and ransomware and the dynamics between government and non-state actors. The conversation also touches on the implications of generative AI in cybersecurity and emphasize the need for proactive measures and innovative solutions to address these threats.