In this episode, Jeffrey talks to Steven Teppler, a partner at Mandelbaum Barrett and the lead of the firm's Privacy and Cybersecurity practice group. Steve is an ISACA-certified Certified Data Privacy Solutions Engineer (CDPSE) and the firm's chief cybersecurity legal officer. They discuss sci-fi movies and the intersection of cybersecurity and law — focusing on the evolving role of Chief Information Security Officers (CISOs) and the legal implications they face. They also explore the increasing legal exposure for CISOs, the complexities of downstream liability and the importance of defensibility in cybersecurity practices.