In this episode, we explore the role of art in democratising human rights and their implementation, particularly in relation to the promotion of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. The conversation features Brian Philips, co-investigator on the Art Rights Truth project, and a human rights practitioner and educator, and Barry Ace, a practising artist and citizen of M’Chigeeng First Nation, Manitoulin Island, Ontario.Theme music by Mauricio Rivera Henao.