A no-holds-barred, nothing-held-back discussion between Rick and his one time client, Mark “The Specimen” Kerr. Rick and Mark peel back the curtain to reveal what it was like in the early days of MMA, from the UFC tournaments and Vale Tudo in Brazil, to the first Abu Dhabi submissions championships and the glory days of PRIDE in Japan. Mark, then considered the world’s dominant #1 Heavyweight, reveals what it was like to live at he top of the world, and then to spectacularly crash and burn, as chronicled in the now infamous HBO documentary. Rick and Mark talk about how and why they each descended to this own rock bottom, and the personal responsibility they ultimately accepted in climbing out of the abyss. The longtime friends then celebrate Mark’s return to a fulfilling life, led by family and friends, including new pal Dwayne Johnson, who recently announced he’ll be playing Mark in his upcoming major dramatic feature. The Smashing Machine.