This week, Rich welcomes the brilliantly chaotic Pedro Leandro — comedian, hula-hoop wielder, and creator of Soft Animal, now at Edinburgh Fringe 2025.

They talk:

• Pedro’s experience coming out — and Rich's own version of “coming out” to his parents… as a comedian

• Why some show ideas make you sick (literally)

• The terror of Zip Zap Boing

• A fly that stole the spotlight

• Queer performance, weird obsessions, and creating from the edge

• Fringe illness and strange epiphanies

A tender, hilarious, slightly unhinged episode.

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🎟️ Catch Pedro’s show Soft Animal at Edinburgh Fringe: https://www.pleasance.co.uk/event/pedro-leandro-soft-animal
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