Jason Widup went from white‑knuckle anxiety to an eight‑hour‑sleep evangelist—and his team is better for it. In this episode, he and Jolie trade notes on self‑doubt, parenting curveballs, and why a morning workout beats doom‑scrolling every time. If you’re leading with an empty battery, press play before you press send.  Key Takeaways• Anxiety wears many masks—naming it is step one• Sleep, sweat, and salads: the simplest stack for mental clarity• Swap coping vices for habits that compound confidence• Leaders who model boundaries give teams permission to do the same• Tiny daily reflections = big, lasting growth Timestamps00:00 – Anxiety, leadership & the moment Jason hit pause02:10 – What anxiety really looks like in high achievers06:31 – Trading unhealthy crutches for healthier rituals11:16 – From late‑night beers to 6 AM burpees19:28 – The trinity: sleep, exercise, nutrition26:19 – Vision boards & micro‑habits27:21 – Self‑compassion > self-criticism32:06 – Quieting impostor syndrome with data and daylight39:49 – Designing a culture that protects personal time47:09 – Normalizing mental health talk at work LinksLearn more about JasonLearn more about JolieLearn more about Revenue Mind