“If you think your team or your organization are not working well, are not doing things, are not to be trusted, are not ready for this, there's something in you here that is all of that. So what in you needs to change, so this space appears for the rest of the team to rise? Be hungry for the collective intelligence to arise. Be happy when you join a meeting and the outcome from it is different from what you envisaged it was going to be. Go with the curiosity of seeing what the solution will be, as opposed to “how am I going to convince everybody that my solution is the one.” If you don't get too attached to your solutions, that's when the magic happens.”
S03E16 of the Rethink Culture podcast shines the spotlight on Dunia Reverter, co-founder of Krisos, a company that buys and transforms businesses into a force for good, and co-founder of JobsWithNoBoss.com, a job board for self-managed organizations. In this episode, Dunia shares her journey from corporate disillusionment at GE to pioneering radical workplace transformations through self-management, transparency, and distributed leadership. She discusses how Krisos acquires companies and restructures them into self-governing, profit-sharing models, proving that autonomy and trust drive both financial success and employee fulfillment. The conversation dives into decision-making by consent, conflict resolution through emotional intelligence, and liberating meeting structures that foster collective wisdom. Dunia leaves us with actionable insights on how leaders can rethink hierarchy, embrace vulnerability, and cultivate cultures where people thrive.
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Production, video, and audio editing by Evangelia Alexaki of Musicove Productions.
Listen to this episode to discover:
• Why self-managed organizations without bosses outperform hierarchical structures
• The financial and cultural benefits of employee-owned, autonomous workplaces
• How collaborative decision-making integrates objections for stronger outcomes
• How to build high-trust cultures through conflict resolution and emotional intelligence
• Meeting tools like Liberating Structures that boost inclusivity and effectiveness
Further resources:
• Krisos’s Website: https://krisos.eu/
• Dunia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethdixonspeaks/
• Reinventing Organizations, by Frederic Laloux: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20787425-reinventing-organizations
• Brave New Work, by Aaron Dignan: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40338432-brave-new-work
• Moose Heads on the Table, by Lisa Gill and Karin Tenelius: www.goodreads.com/book/show/55048428-moose-heads-on-the-table