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Is casual dining just surviving or thriving? In this dynamic roundtable from The Depot in Salt Lake City, Barry McGowan (Fogo de Chao) leads a conversation with Kaleb Harrell (Hawkers), Christine Magrann (FB Society), and Jeff Chandler (Hopdoddy) to explore why many believe casual dining is in the midst of a renaissance.
Together, they unpack how operators are innovating without losing hospitality’s soul, why experiential dining is driving growth, and how culture remains the foundation for sustainable expansion. From pricing strategies and tech adoption to guest connection and brand integrity, this panel delivers actionable insights for restaurateurs, founders, and foodservice investors alike.
⏱️ Chapters
00:00 | Intro: The Casual Dining Renaissance
03:01 | Hawkers: Origin Story & Why Casual Lasts
07:01 | Guests Want Approachable Excellence
10:45 | Hospitality Is Human Connection
15:11 | Scaling Culture Without Losing the Soul
18:45 | Balancing Tech with Leadership Intuition
21:28 | Owning and Nourishing Company Culture
26:00 | Innovation Done Thoughtfully
27:34 | Guests Crave Experiences & Shared Moments
29:23 | Experimenting with Craveable Value
32:15 | Team Input & Operational Reality Checks
34:05 | Pricing Strategy: Art Meets Science
39:33 | The Promise & Pitfall of Technology
42:52 | Final Thoughts & Mic Drop Moments
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