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Sarah reports from the Festival of Hidden REF held in Birmingham on 8 October 2025. This episode features contributions from organisers, speakers and participants including
Hidden REF committee members Simon Hettrick and James Baker sharing the story behind the event
Previous Hidden REF competition winners Laura Henderson and Lorraine van Blerk highlighting hidden roles in research
Speaker Elisa Collado and participants Emily Ennis, Jo Williams and Alix Brodie-Wray and Nick Sheppard sharing their takeaways and what still might be missing from the conversation
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