Erica and Ana interviewed Dr. Joy Mwendwa, who is an embodiment of joy! In this interview, they discussed practicum anxiety and specific steps Master students can take to address this normative reaction to the counselor education experiential process. They also explored Dr. Mwendwa's teaching philosophy and the importance of humility and presence through the pedagogical process. We hope you enjoy! Joy is also a Licensed Professional Counselor in Virginia and a Licensed Counseling Supervisor where she offers counseling supervision at Thomas Road Counseling House, Cornerstone Counseling Counseling and Care, and DMV Counseling Coaching and Consulting.   APA Citation: Rhoads, E., & Barend, A. (Producers). (2023, September 8). Ep. 44: Calming practicum anxiety: Being a learner amongst learners- Dr. Joy Mwendwa [Audio podcast episode]. In RENAR Voice. Rho Eta Nu Alpha Rho of Chi Sigma Iota, Liberty University