Fr. Isaac Mary, CFR joins Robert and Jeff to share his experience receiving counseling as a man who is a Catholic priest - what led him to it, his resistance to counseling, his experience of the therapeutic process, and his life since. He discusses performance and perfectionism, looking for healing without knowing what he needed, possible misdiagnosis, understanding his emotional life, the experience of growing in wholeness toward authentic self-gift, and how the therapeutic relationship ultimately led him to greater reliance on God the Father. Fr. Isaac is a member of the Community of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal (CFR), a mendicant religious order of lay brothers and priests devoted to prayer, fraternity, hands on work with the poor, and proclaiming the Gospel in the tradition of St. Francis of Assisi.  He entered the friars in 2000, was ordained a priest in 2010 at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City, and currently serves the materially and spiritually poor in Derry, Northern Ireland. Follow the friars in Derry on their Facebook page here. *Apologies for sound quality issues * Spotify users - visit here for episodes pre-dating Ep. 23 Recommended APA citation example: Switala, R. P., & Mazzone, J. (Producers). (2022, April 25). Ep. 37: *Client Voices* - A priest walks into counseling [Audio podcast episode]. In RENAR Voice. Rho Eta Nu Alpha Rho of Chi Sigma Iota, Liberty University.