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Remnant Finance - Infinite Banking and Capital Control
Brian Moody & Hans Toohey
73 episodes
4 days ago
Remnant Finance aims to revolutionize how you think about money. Join co-hosts Brian Moody and Hans Toohey, veteran military pilots and Authorized Infinite Banking Concept Practitioners of the NNI, as they dive deep into strategies that can transform your approach to personal finance. What’s Infinite Banking? It’s a financial movement about taking control of your future and creating a system that preserves and grows your wealth across generations. Join us as we challenge the conventional and build financial independence together. Subscribe to navigate your financial future with confidence!
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Remnant Finance aims to revolutionize how you think about money. Join co-hosts Brian Moody and Hans Toohey, veteran military pilots and Authorized Infinite Banking Concept Practitioners of the NNI, as they dive deep into strategies that can transform your approach to personal finance. What’s Infinite Banking? It’s a financial movement about taking control of your future and creating a system that preserves and grows your wealth across generations. Join us as we challenge the conventional and build financial independence together. Subscribe to navigate your financial future with confidence!
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E72 - Why IULs Almost Always Fail: The Kyle Busch $8.5M Lawsuit
Remnant Finance - Infinite Banking and Capital Control
44 minutes 16 seconds
4 days ago
E72 - Why IULs Almost Always Fail: The Kyle Busch $8.5M Lawsuit

Two-time NASCAR champion Kyle Busch just lost $8.5 million in an Indexed Universal Life policy after paying $10.5 million in premiums. This isn't just celebrity drama—it's a case study in why 90%+ of IULs collapse and why we'll never sell one. 


IULs try to be insurance, savings, and investment all in one product. The result? A policy full of moving parts, changing cap rates, rising mortality charges, and a "path of least resistance" that leads most people to stop funding properly. By your 70s, the annual insurance cost skyrockets while your cash value evaporates. The company transfers risk back to you—the opposite of what insurance should do. 


Whole life insurance has guaranteed increases, true downside protection, unlimited upside potential, and a 200+ year track record. Don't mix protection, savings, and growth into one product. Keep them separate. Think in years, measure in weeks. And whatever you do, don't "IUL" your financial future.

Chapters:

00:00 - Opening segment

01:44 - Kyle Busch

$8.5M IUL lawsuit introduced

03:51 - How did this happen? Bobby Samuelson article breakdown

05:43 - Agent structured policy to maximize his compensation

07:21 - Why celebrity cases expose industry-wide problems

09:19 - How IULs work: cap rates, floors, participation rates

13:07 - The mortality charge death spiral explained

14:32 - Real client story

18:32 - Why policies collapse in your 70s and 80s

20:18 - Net amount at risk breakdown

22:11 - IULs transfer risk back to you (opposite of insurance)

22:54 - Protect, Save, Grow: Don't mix them

26:13 - Why IULs exist and why they fail

28:17 - Whole life dividends vs IUL flexibility traps

32:52 - Proper protection across all life areas

35:12 - Long-term thinking vs optimization traps

38:17 - Conservative approach to new growth strategies

40:12 - Don't "IUL" your trading or life insurance

42:30 - Closing segment

Key Takeaways:

  • Kyle Busch lost $8.5M of $10.5M in premiums in an IUL—brings national attention to product failure rates

  • IULs have cap rates (max return), floors (usually 0%), and participation rates—but companies can change caps anytime

  • 90%+ of IULs collapse because of human behavior traps and rising mortality charges in later years

  • IULs charge monthly mortality based on net amount at risk—when policy underperforms, charges increase

  • Insurance should transfer risk to the company—IULs transfer risk back to you

  • Whole life has guaranteed increases every year, true downside protection, unlimited upside potential, and 200+ year track record

  • Don't mix protection, savings, and growth—keep them separate and intentional

  • Think in years, measure in weeks—stay conservative even when you find better strategies

  • Only time to "buy term and invest the difference": when your only other option is an IUL

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Remnant Finance - Infinite Banking and Capital Control
Remnant Finance aims to revolutionize how you think about money. Join co-hosts Brian Moody and Hans Toohey, veteran military pilots and Authorized Infinite Banking Concept Practitioners of the NNI, as they dive deep into strategies that can transform your approach to personal finance. What’s Infinite Banking? It’s a financial movement about taking control of your future and creating a system that preserves and grows your wealth across generations. Join us as we challenge the conventional and build financial independence together. Subscribe to navigate your financial future with confidence!