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Remnant Finance - Infinite Banking and Capital Control
Brian Moody & Hans Toohey
73 episodes
4 days ago
Remnant Finance aims to revolutionize how you think about money. Join co-hosts Brian Moody and Hans Toohey, veteran military pilots and Authorized Infinite Banking Concept Practitioners of the NNI, as they dive deep into strategies that can transform your approach to personal finance. What’s Infinite Banking? It’s a financial movement about taking control of your future and creating a system that preserves and grows your wealth across generations. Join us as we challenge the conventional and build financial independence together. Subscribe to navigate your financial future with confidence!
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Remnant Finance aims to revolutionize how you think about money. Join co-hosts Brian Moody and Hans Toohey, veteran military pilots and Authorized Infinite Banking Concept Practitioners of the NNI, as they dive deep into strategies that can transform your approach to personal finance. What’s Infinite Banking? It’s a financial movement about taking control of your future and creating a system that preserves and grows your wealth across generations. Join us as we challenge the conventional and build financial independence together. Subscribe to navigate your financial future with confidence!
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E68 - Non-Forfeiture Options: Safety Nets, Not a Strategy
Remnant Finance - Infinite Banking and Capital Control
58 minutes 56 seconds
1 month ago
E68 - Non-Forfeiture Options: Safety Nets, Not a Strategy

What happens if you can't afford your whole life insurance premium anymore? It's the most common concern when people design large policies for Infinite Banking: "I don't want to pay this huge premium until I'm 95 years old." The truth is, once you understand what premium is doing for you—building momentum, creating guaranteed growth, and establishing your family banking system—you won't want to stop. 

But life happens. Income disruptions, career changes, or simply changing priorities might make you reconsider. That's why understanding your contractual rights matters. There are five distinct options when you can't or won't continue paying premiums, and most people only know about the worst one: surrendering for cash. This episode breaks down all five options, from the contractual non-forfeiture provisions required by state law to the optimal strategy that lets your policy sustain itself. We explain extended term insurance, reduced paid-up insurance, automatic premium loans, and the dividend payment strategy—plus why working with an authorized IBC practitioner ensures you actually have access to these options. The goal isn't to plan your exit from day one, but to understand the full contract you're entering and know you have control no matter what happens.

Chapters:

00:00 - Opening segment

07:00 - Introduction to non-forfeiture options and PUA  

10:00 - Four contractual non-forfeiture options overview  

11:20 - Cash value refresher

13:00 - Net present value

14:40 - Dave Ramsey's misrepresentation   

17:50 - Company exposure and why cash value grows over time  

18:55 - Option 1: Cash surrender value (closing the policy)  

20:30 - Option 2: Extended term insurance explained  

25:45 - Option 3: Automatic premium loan (APL)  

27:00 - When APL makes sense: income disruption scenarios  

32:00 - Base premium vs. total premium: What you actually need to sustain  

35:00 - Option 4: Reduced paid-up insurance (RPU)  

36:25 - Why you can't RPU before year seven (MEC rules)  

42:15 - How using dividends changes projections  

44:50 - Option 5: Using dividends to pay premiums (the optimal strategy)  

48:05 - Keeping premium door open  

52:00 - Protection and savings before speculation  

54:10 - Keeping the wall between savings and investments  

56:30 - Final thoughts

Key Takeaways:

- Cash surrender value is not separate from death benefit—it's your equity in the future payment at present value

- There are 5 total options when you can't pay premium: 4 contractual non-forfeiture options plus the dividend strategy

- Cash surrender (Option 1): Walk away with equity, lose all coverage—least recommended option

- Extended term insurance (Option 2): Same death benefit dollar amount, reduced timeframe based on cash value

- Reduced paid-up insurance (Option 3): Same timeframe (whole life), reduced death benefit, no future premiums required

- Automatic premium loan (Option 4): Company loans against cash value to pay base premium automatically

- Dividend payment (Option 5): Use policy dividends to pay base premium—the optimal approach for mature policies

- Not all whole life companies support optimal IBC design—must have PUA riders available

- Work only with Nelson Nash Institute authorized practitioners to ensure proper policy structure

- Goal is never to stop paying premium once you understand what it's doing for your family banking system

- Your whole life policy should be the asset you understand most completely before signing

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Remnant Finance - Infinite Banking and Capital Control
Remnant Finance aims to revolutionize how you think about money. Join co-hosts Brian Moody and Hans Toohey, veteran military pilots and Authorized Infinite Banking Concept Practitioners of the NNI, as they dive deep into strategies that can transform your approach to personal finance. What’s Infinite Banking? It’s a financial movement about taking control of your future and creating a system that preserves and grows your wealth across generations. Join us as we challenge the conventional and build financial independence together. Subscribe to navigate your financial future with confidence!