In this episode our guest is Arif Ali Zada, he is a refugee from Afghanistan.  He came to Indonesia in 2014, he served the refugee community in Pekanbaru city as an English teacher. In this episode, he is sharing his experience and the challenges and achievements that refugees are facing nowadays and how they struggle with all the resistance they have. 

Also, he shares his solutions that how refugees can have a better educational system in such a restricted circumstance, where refugees are not allowed to go to schools, universities in order to learn academic knowledge. 

In a part of his talk, he is saying that refugees didn’t assume to stay in Indonesia for this long time and that is one of the problems that refugees have not any proper educational system. Also, he is suggesting refugees to sign up on online platforms to gain a better education and never give up on the big dreams.