Want to be part of the movement? Give this podcast a 5-star rating on Apple and Spotify. It’s a small act with a big impact to spread the word about Jesus + justice — your support helps us spark dialogue and mobilize listeners for impact. ----more---- Shane talks with Pastor Carl Ruby about the urgent struggle to protect immigrant families against ICE raids and deportation.  Pastor Ruby is a pastor in Springfield, OH, where Haitian families have been under threat of deportation after VP Vance and President Trump claimed they ate people's pets, a false claim and racist trope that has led to real death threats in Springfield.  Hear how the church is rising up to protect the lives of vulnerable neighbors.  Help sustain the work of RLC: www.redletterchristians.org/donate/ To check out what RLC is up to, please visit us www.redletterchristians.org  Follow us on Twitter: @RedLetterXians Instagram: @RedLetterXians Follow Shane on Instagram: @shane.claiborne Twitter: @ShaneClaiborne