Welcome back to the nonprofit recruitment Marketing Podcast is your host, Ryan Kohler, and I'm coming to you live in what sounds like the jungle. So forgive the random bird sounds here is I'm outside in Puerto Rico. But we're recording this podcast and being authentic about how to help nonprofits hire. So you'll have to forgive a little bit of unprofessional bird noises in the background. But today, what we're going to drill into, is really to talk about the way you think about recruiting as a holistic part of your organization as not just a strategy. But as you know, the goal being to make it a strategic advantage for your nonprofit.