Sometimes we like to seek landscapes that feel timeless, as if they've been set adrift from the tyranny of the clock. But perhaps we need to start seeing the world as timeful.

Marcia Bjornerud is a professor of geology and environmental studies at Lawrence University, and the author of two books, Timefulness: How Thinking Like a Geologist Can Help Save the World, and Geopedia: A Brief Compendium of Geological Curiosities.

In this first episode of re: Wild, I talk to Marcia about deep time, and how developing "timefulness" might be key to a better relationship with the rest of the world.