With Kai Heron, Keir Milburn and Bertie Russell.  Capitalism has created a world of bullsh*t abundance and artificial scarcity, where we have too much of what we don’t need and too little of what we do. The system’s pursuit of profits has put us on a collision course with social and ecological limits that can no longer be ignored. It’s clear we need an alternative, and liberal visions of green capitalism just won't cut it. We need 'radical abundance'—a world of human and non-human flourishing made possible by democratically planned production. Kai Heron, Keir Milburn and Bertie Russell join us on the show to talk about the big ideas in their new book Radical Abundance: How to Win a Green Democratic Future. We discuss why the left needs to laser-focused on the question of ecosocialist transition, and why the patient work of institution building is a necessary response to a world on fire. We look at the Public-Common Partnership model, and explore the housing, pharmaceutical and food sectors as three areas in which new institutions and forms of social property might be developed. Find out more about Abundance: https://www.in-abundance.org/