Dr Cole Galloway started us off by saying there is no absolute answer to this question. It depends on what the “end” is and it depends on what the “means” were. There are certainly times were winning the battle isn’t worth the damage you caused to win it.   Joe Pici came in with a hard line in the sand. “The end never justifies the means. How you get there is more important than arriving.”   Fallon Siniscarco said it comes down to morals. She would rather work really hard and not get the outcome she hoped for than to cheat to get the end results she wanted.   Then I wondered why it’s so clear when we sit in our little zoom boxes (which I stumbled over badly trying to say) that bad means aren’t justified by a good end. But in the real world, it doesn’t play out like that.   In the real world, the people who cheat often do win. We talked about that near the end of the conversation too.   What do you think? Does the end ever justify the means? And how do you handle it when you see people cheating their way to success while you struggle to do things fair and square?   Connect with the panelists: Joe Pici: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joepici/ He is a speaker, coach and strategist specializing in results driven sales training for top sales professionals   Dr Cole Galloway: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cole-galloway-1ba715107/ Recovering academic working in social justice and disability, primarily with babies as the Founder at Go Baby Go   Fallon Siniscarco: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fallon-siniscarco-889558267/ Student Utica university studying occupational therapy. She will be starting grad school in the fall to study the same.   Dr Robyn Odegaard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynodegaard/ AKA Mental MacGyver. My doctorate is in organizational business psychology with a concentration in sport and performance. I provide luxury level, high performance support and coaching to executives, founders, celebrities and athletes.   Want a summary of Quick Hits plus the links to the LinkedIn pages of each of the panelist in your in-box every week? Let me know where to send it: https://drrobynodegaard.com/quick-hits-notifications/   #QuickHits are designed to exercise your brain by letting you listen in on an unscripted conversation to get other people's thoughts on pertinent subjects. If you would like to join a conversation or have a topic you would like to hear discussed, please message me. https://www.MentalMacGyver.com