In this episode of Queer Talker, host Ben Cicchetti sits down with Jordan Gray — award-winning comedian, musician, writer, and the first trans woman to headline the London Palladium.

Jordan reflects on her journey from pop singer to stand-up comedian, and how coming out unlocked the freedom to share her authentic self on stage. She talks about creating her hit ITV show Transaction, her Channel 4 special Is It A Bird?, and her 2025 Edinburgh Fringe show Is That a Cock in Your Pocket or Are You Just Here to Kill Me?

From blending music and comedy to disarm prejudice, to navigating social media while “staying soft,” Jordan shares the highs, lows, and laughter that define her story. She also offers heartfelt advice to young queer people about choosing joy over other people’s discomfort and living unapologetically.

This is a conversation about authenticity, resilience, and why comedy is one of the most powerful tools we have for connection.

Chapters

00:00 Queer Panic Rapid Fire

04:28 Exploring Queer Media and Representation

07:26 Authenticity and Personal Journey

10:21 First Awareness of Queerness

13:21 Transitioning from Music to Comedy

16:27 The Art of Blending Music and Comedy

20:51 The Journey to ITV: From Concept to Screen

23:58 Writing for TV vs. Stand-Up Comedy

25:59 Navigating Public Perception and Social Media

30:24 The Power of Comedy in Challenging Conversations

33:26 The Fine Line of Humor: Intent vs. Impact

37:26 Experiencing the Edinburgh Fringe Festival

38:30 Advice for the Younger Generation

41:10 What's Next for Jordan Gray?

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