When Renae suggested we explore shame together on the podcast, something in me thought ok, this is interesting - not because it's an easy topic, but because I knew how much healing could unfold in that conversation.

And that's exactly what happened.

What started as Renae's curiosity about shame became this incredibly freeing dialogue about how we can transform our relationship with those tender, vulnerable parts of ourselves that we've been carrying in silence.

We found ourselves sharing stories not from a place of dwelling in the difficult, but from this space of genuine discovery - how shame loses its grip when it finally has somewhere safe to land, and how powerful it is to realise you're not alone in these very human experiences.