Christina Cocca AKA Cocca Macocca joins me to talk the season so far, Episode 12, Sandoval's Tier Of Tears, the seeming obsession of production to pull all of us behind the fourth wall again, semi-sober curiosity, Lisa's collusion in these farcical initiatives, CHICAGO, and more.

We taped for at least 3 hours, so look forward to and equally lengthy part two with my absolutely delightful guest Christina.