If we look out 5-10 years, what is going to be more important to the next generation. Is it their digital life or their physical life? In this “Live from Links” episode, Patrick Ghion, Chief Cyber Strategy Officer for the Geneva Cantonal Police and an active member of the INTERPOL Metaverse Expert Group provides his answer to  Jim Lee (Global Head of Capacity Building, Chainalysis), who spent almost 30 years with IRS Criminal Investigation team. The duo discusses the complexities of law enforcement's evolving landscape in the digital age and the critical role of public-private partnerships and academia in combating cybercrime. Patrick provides context around the creation of regional Cyber Competence Centers (RC3) and the progress law enforcement is making in the metaverse, while encouraging  police departments to strategize for future threats, training, and the integration of AI. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | Patrick’s career progression and intro to Regional Cyber Competence Center (RC3) 5 | Metaverse policing strategy and approach to “Vision 2030” 7 | Societal shift to report cybercrimes to police in the metaverse than in real life 11 | Public-Private and Academic Partnerships 15 | Hiring strategy for law enforcement for crypto and AI  19 | Reflections on Links Conference and networking   Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: Geneva Police: Protect and Serve Blog: Vision 2030+: Geneva Police in the Metaverse Blog: Chainalysis Links NYC 2025 – Day 1 Showcases Innovation, Security, and Collaborative Power Chainalysis In Action: How Chainalysis Helped the FBI Track Down and Freeze Millions in the Caesars Casino Ransomware Attack Blog: AI-Powered Crypto Scams: How Artificial Intelligence is Being Used for Fraud YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Speakers on today’s episode Jim Lee *host* (Global Head of Capacity Building, Chainalysis) Patrick Ghion (Chief Cyber Strategy Officer, Geneva Cantonal Police) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.  Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.