During Proximity Conference 2025, Abi Thomas interviewed a range of contributors digging deeper into the topics they discussed in our time together. In this episode, Abi Thomas interviews Cris Rogers, an urban theologian and church leader from East London. Cris shares his approach to urban ministry, and the importance of deep community engagement. He delves into discipleship beyond social media, emphasising the need for relational, intentional faith practices and living so deeply within a community that your roots are intertwined. For Cris, theology is best understood and practiced on the street, not in the classroom.