
Matt Hougan joins us today for Episode 1 of the Proof of Thought Podcast. The crypto revolution is just beginning and will reshape everything from corporate treasuries to how nations store value. Matt, the CIO of Bitwise, breaks down what’s coming next and how to position yourself for it.
*This video was recorded March 25, 2025.
In our very first episode, Matt reveals:
▫️Why this wave of Bitcoin Standard Corporations is here to stay.
▫️Whether MicroStrategy is a masterstroke or a mirage.
▫️Why we may be on the verge of many more sovereigns buying Bitcoin.
▫️How stablecoins could reshape U.S. debt, trust, and the financial system.
▫️Which crypto narratives still have legs.
▫️How to generate real income from Bitcoin holdings.
▫️The most exciting business opportunities in crypto right now.
The information in this episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research or speak to a licensed advisor before making any investment decisions.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:30 Why More Companies Are Turning Their Treasuries Into Bitcoin (feat. Bitwise’s Bitcoin Standard Corporations ETF)
05:07 Skepticism About MicroStrategy and Other Bitcoin Treasury Companies and What People Get Wrong
08:14 The New U.S. Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and What Central Banks Around the World Will Do Next
11:23 U.S. Fort Knox Gold vs. Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and the Future of U.S. Hard Reserve Assets
13:40 Nation State Game Theory in the U.S. Buys Bitcoin or Sells Gold to Do It
14:59 Why Ethereum ETFs Underperformed Expectations, What People Get Wrong, and What’s Next
17:28 Solana ETFs and Its Post-Meme Coin Narrative
19:21 First Principles: Why Stablecoins Could Fund $1 Trillion of U.S. Debt
25:21 First Principles: Importance of Trust in Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, and Stablecoins
30:21 First Principles: Parallels Between Cryptocurrency and ETF Adoption
34:14 The Most Exciting Business Opportunities in Crypto Today
36:48 The Impact of Institutional Adoption on Cryptocurrency Market Cycles
38:59 Generating Income From Bitcoin and Unicorn Business Opportunities
41:37 What Matt Is Reading and Listening To
42:50 Where to Keep Up With Matt
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