
In this deep-dive interview, Brian and I explore Bitcoin investment strategies, Microstrategy's (traded as $MSTR, recently rebranded as Strategy) trajectory under Michael Saylor, and how to analyze other Bitcoin treasury companies like Metaplanet and Semler Scientific. Brian shares unique first-principles frameworks for evaluating Bitcoin, discusses GameStop’s Bitcoin strategy, and unpacks key concepts like ATM financing instruments, convertible notes, and preferred stock.
We cover the technology adoption curve of Bitcoin, the implications of Strategy’s Nasdaq 100 inclusion for a potential future S&P 500 listing, and how leveraging debt can amplify Bitcoin exposure. Brian also reveals his favorite Bitcoin treasury company beyond MicroStrategy, his insights on Jack Mallers’ 21 Capital with Cantor Fitzgerald and Tether, and how a multilingual background can provide an edge when evaluating global Bitcoin opportunities like Metaplanet.
Whether you’re a seasoned investor or new to the world of Bitcoin, crypto, and Bitcoin treasury strategies, this conversation will help you think critically about how to approach Bitcoin investing from both short- and long-term perspectives.
Timestamps:
0:43 - Strategy’s “42 42 Plan” explained
2:20 - Short-term vs long-term Bitcoin investing
2:42 - ATM instruments, convertible notes, and preferred stock: key differences
5:45 - GameStop’s surprising Bitcoin strategy
7:59 - Technology adoption curve for Bitcoin and crypto
10:05 - Strategy’s Nasdaq 100 inclusion and implications for S&P 500 eligibility
13:19 - First Principles: Evaluating Bitcoin if starting today
16:34 - First Principles: Using arbitrage and debt to buy Bitcoin
20:18 - First Principles: How Bitcoin changed Brian’s investing
24:00 - Key KPIs to analyze Strategy/MicroStrategy ($MSTR)
29:17 - Analyzing Bitcoin treasury companies without a finance background
32:13 - Jack Mallers’ 21 Capital, Cantor Fitzgerald, and Tether
35:34 - Brian’s excitement about Bitcoin’s future
36:47 - Brian’s favorite Bitcoin treasury company beyond Strategy/MicroStrategy
39:24 - How Brian’s Japanese degree helps with Metaplanet analysis
40:05 - Brian’s view on Semler Scientific ($SMLR)
42:14 - Brian’s current reading and listening list
43:13 - Researching Metaplanet’s “ATM-like” financing instrument
44:43 - Where to follow Brian
➡️ Don’t miss this essential discussion on Bitcoin investing, Michael Saylor, MicroStrategy, Metaplanet, Semler Scientific, Jack Mallers, GameStop, Tether, and the future of Bitcoin treasury strategies.
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