"People sometimes need someone else to unlock that story inside of them. There are ways you can guide a conversation to allow someone to open that door and speak freely in such a way that becomes ultimately interesting." ~ Caleb 

My guest for this episode is the host of the Caleb Versus Self podcast. Caleb and I have been professional colleagues and friends for a few years now and more recently we've been creative collaborators in the podcast space.

Caleb has developed a conversational style of interviewing that goes far beyond just featuring a guest. Digging deeper into the motivations and perspectives of interesting people from all walks of life and unique experiences. We talked about how he approaches researching potential guests to how he crafts these compelling conversations.

Most importantly to me, we aired out our ongoing debate and differing views of Caleb's insistence that he is NOT, in fact, a Creator despite my assertions that he most definitely is. Take a listen and judge for yourself.

You can hear Caleb's conversations with interesting folks from all sorts of unique and interesting backgrounds for yourself HERE: Caleb Versus Self

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If you would like to be a guest on the podcast and share your creator journey please get in touch! Email me at projectcreatorcontact@gmail.com