After the genre-diversity, sound pioneering, and commercial success, of his 1970s collaborations, Tony Visconti entered a drastically different music decade in the 1980s.

The influence of punk is being felt, even in Tony's chart-dominating mainstream, and the sounds become harsher, noisier and, somehow, poppier.

In this episode we talk Adam Ant, The Boomtown Rats, Elaine Paige and more. Yeah, it's a strange one.