In this conversation, educators discuss the sobering NAEP results and the implications for student achievement. They emphasize the need for honesty in reporting student performance, the disconnect between grades and actual proficiency, and the importance of effective teacher preparation. The discussion highlights the necessity for collaboration among educators, parents, and communities to address the educational crisis and improve student outcomes. Follow on Twitter: @HeatherPeske @radiokeri, @nationalparents @_CrystalMWatson @jonHarper70bd @bamradionetwork Dr. Heather Peske came to NCTQ after serving as Senior Associate Commissioner for Instructional Support in the Massachusetts Department of Elementary and Secondary Education (MA DESE) where she implemented policies and programs across teacher development, educator preparation, and curriculum and instruction that drove historic improvements for students. She started her career as an elementary teacher in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Keri Rodrigues is National Parents Union (NPU) – a groundbreaking organization that unites parents from diverse backgrounds to advocate for the rights, economic and educational needs of America’s children. Crystal M. Watson, Ed.M is an innovative, passionate, and authentic mathematics educator and lifelong learner who you can count on to always ask “What do the students think?” Her work is centered around providing space for voice and identity development in order for everyone, particularly those most marginalized, to experience high quality, deep, and personal mathematics. Crystal has worked alongside other scholars to develop culturally responsive, reflective, and/or anti-racist curricular resources that center young people in every lesson. You might catch her at both local and national conferences, on podcasts, developing and leading professional development sessions, or having conversations about how we are cultivating youth-centered spaces.