Join Todd as he delves into a captivating discussion with Tom Krause, founder of Behavioral Science Technology, on the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast. This episode unravels the evolution of safety protocols from traditional behavioral-based approaches to modern leadership-driven strategies.Krause shares his journey from pioneering behavioral-based safety techniques to exploring the pivotal role leaders play in mitigating catastrophic events. The conversation highlights the significance of leadership decision-making in shaping organizational culture and safety outcomes.Discover how historical safety models have informed current practices and gain insights into the challenges and advancements in the safety domain, all set against the vibrant backdrop of their meeting in Santa Fe. Tune in to uncover these transformative ideas and the evolving landscape of workplace safety.