In this third installment of the "Becoming the Protégé" series on Power Producers Shop Talk, host David Carothers sits down with contestant Lloyd Brown. David opens the show with a candid discussion on the need for greater diversity in the "pale, male, and stale" insurance industry, commending Lloyd for joining the competition. Lloyd shares his powerful personal journey, from attending ministry school for six years to become a pastor to finding his calling in the business world. He explains how his core strength of empathy has become his greatest asset, allowing him to build a successful niche serving churches, religious organizations, and schools in the challenging Florida market. Key Highlights: From the Pulpit to the Middle Market Lloyd Brown details his unique background, explaining his decision to take his spiritual foundation and purpose "outside the walls of the church" and into the business world. This transition led him to insurance and, after binging the podcast for guidance, to The Protégé competition. A Mission for Diversity and Meritocracy Lloyd shares his motivation for joining the show: to represent people of color and spotlight the insurance industry as a powerful vehicle for creating generational wealth. He emphasizes his strong belief in meritocracy over victimhood, stating that success in production is open to anyone with the hunger and desire to achieve it. Empathy as a Niche-Building Superpower After discovering empathy was his top result on StrengthsFinders, Lloyd learned to embrace it as his key differentiator. This strength allows him to connect deeply with leaders of churches and schools, understand their missions, and navigate the difficult coverages unique to their operations (like property, SAML, and pastoral legal liability). Reframing Savings as Mission Impact The conversation highlights the unique value of serving non-profits. Lloyd shares a story of saving a school $27,000 by reclassifying work comp codes (moving employees from 9101 to 8868), which the school used for employee bonuses. David adds a powerful tip: agents in this niche should get client testimonials and reframe savings not in dollars, but in mission terms (e.g., "10,000 more Bibles"). Connect with: Lloyd Brown LinkedIn David Carothers LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp USI Insurance Services Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes