Easily the most important discussion we have had and a core reason this podcast exists. I am extremely grateful Kim and Bart offered to share a deeply personal experience to listeners who are preparing for parenthood. When you learn about conceiving, the joy and excitement is overpowering as a parent. You understand the risks through the first few critical weeks but I think many believe, “It will never happen to us”. After all, you don’t hear a lot of friends or family talk about miscarriages. And that is precisely it, the pain of the experience often makes it hard to share such a personal tragedy.

Bart was given one directive from Kim, don’t “bullsh!t” the experience. Mission accomplished. Bart delivers the respect and honesty that carries the brevity of such an important subject. I believe this episode will help others understand they are not alone.

It’s not all sad. Somehow Bart is able to put me in a tongue twister that offers a laugh. He continues to outrank our cohosts with new craft brew recommendations. And he shows such a diverse palate.

Thank you Bart and Kim for your bravery and willingness to share such a personal experience.