In this episode, we talk about the beloved (and sometimes hated) 1985 Walter Murch film Return to Oz. We talk about mental health, trauma narratives, colonialism, weird friends, and the importance of a child's instincts when the adults around her are getting it wrong.

Tracy Stefanucci is a writer and editor in Sweden. Mel Zee is a part of the social media marketing team Rah Rah Creative Co. and talks about dark pop culture on @sorryibroughtitup on TikTok.

You can find Julie at juliepeters.ca, at @juliepeterswellness on Instagram, and @popcorntherapy on TikTok.