Phil Hammond is an Emeritus Professor of Media and Communications in the School of Arts and Creative Industries at London South Bank University, who spent his career examining propaganda, especially in the UK. He edited a tome with Ed Herman (of the Chomsky-Herman propaganda model fame) on the reporting about the war in Kosovi and Metohija: Degraded Capability: The Media and the Kosovo Crisis , which included contributions by Harold Pinter, John Pilger and many other media critics. We spoke about what it was like being a media analyst in a highly moralistic reporting environment, and how propaganda changed in the past 25 years, including the reporting on Israel and Iran. Notes https://researchportal.lsbu.ac.uk/en/persons/philip-hammond https://lat.rt.rs/srbija-i-balkan/82945-relativizacija-ljiljana-smajlovic-filip-hamond/ https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x61dvzb