Chris Pearson and Ella Watts recommend apocalypse audio fiction.

Jenny Turner Hall talks Marvel's Wastelanders: Wolverine, and discusses the pressures of working on a Marvel property, as well as the stakes that come from writing stories starring young characters.

Plus Kc Wayland discusses We're Alive: Descendants - the latest iteration in the We're Alive universe, which brings to a close a story that began in 2009. We'll hear how Kc's military background influenced writing the show, and ask how has the podcast audio fiction landscape changed in the last thirteen years.

And we'll recommend:

- The Last Station - This American Wasteland - No Place but the Water - The Program Audio Series - Hello From The Hallowoods - Out of the Ashes - Spaceships - The Liminal Lands