In this episode, we talk to game designer, curator and writer Holly Gramazio about situating invitations to play in public space in her own work and as director of Now Play This. The conversation continues as she reflects on her experience as co-author on Bernie De Koven's last book, The Infinite Playground: A Player’s Guide to Imagination, that traverses his incredible legacy of fun theory and play design.

And in the second half of the program, we’ll travel to Japan with researcher and artist Dr Hugh Davies, where we’ll explore the first in a two part story on the pre-history of the hit augmented reality game Pokemon Go.