Description Eric Chou started with a mod for Command and Conquer. Today, he runs Honor Games and works on the front lines of mental health. In this episode, we unpack the evolution of a community-built mod into a full studio, what it takes to shift from modding to indie development, and how mental health became part of Eric's mission. He shares practical advice for narrative design, community-building, and supporting others through tough times. This is a thoughtful conversation about ambition, burnout, and why games matter beyond the screen. Perfect for game devs, modders, and anyone thinking about doing work that truly matters. 🎯 5 Key Moments and Timestamps [06:50] From writer to narrative designer Eric breaks down how he leveled up from fan fiction to building full story arcs in the modding scene [13:30] Why leaving modding took years Transitioning to indie development was not just a tech challenge but an emotional and creative shift [20:25] Teaching economics through gameplay Eric explains how Vultures blends factory management and stock market dynamics to build systems thinking [27:00] Mental health is part of the mission From working at 988 to designing a mental health card game, Eric explains how personal experiences shaped his path [44:45] The Trigger Initiative Eric shares plans to mentor unfinished indie games and help them reach MVP without becoming a traditional publisher 🧠 Big Takeaways * Narrative design should support gameplay, not just live beside it * Mods can create lasting impact long after development stops * Mental health support starts with listening without judgment * Education and game design are not mutually exclusive * Indie support can be reimagined as community-powered mentorship 🔗 Links Mentioned * Honor Games Website [https://honorgames.co/] * Eric Chou on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericjchou]