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Plain View
Elise Joseph James, Kristine Claghorn
12 episodes
3 days ago
Plain View is a podcast and community exploring self-worth, connection and personal growth. Through individual stories and vulnerable conversations, close friends Kristine Claghorn and Elise Joseph James navigate topics like stress, imposter syndrome, loneliness, aging and more. Plain View shares science-backed practices and tools for cultivating new skills and creating positive change.
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Plain View is a podcast and community exploring self-worth, connection and personal growth. Through individual stories and vulnerable conversations, close friends Kristine Claghorn and Elise Joseph James navigate topics like stress, imposter syndrome, loneliness, aging and more. Plain View shares science-backed practices and tools for cultivating new skills and creating positive change.
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This Might Sound Boring
Plain View
45 minutes 25 seconds
5 months ago
This Might Sound Boring

In our dopamine-driven world, productivity and stimulation are the standard. Boredom can feel like a problem to avoid, which we can do easily now by scrolling our days away. But what if boredom is actually an important signal? One that can lead to creativity, presence, and emotional clarity? In this episode of Plain View, Kristine and Elise explore the lost art of boredom: why we avoid it, what it stirs up in us, and how learning to sit with it might reconnect us to what we actually need. 


They reflect on the psychology of boredom, its link to desire and discomfort, and how overstimulation might be making it harder for us to feel fulfilled. 


The episode also includes a short guided practice written by Kristine to help you welcome boredom not as something to fix, but as something to listen to.


Timestamps & Key Topics:

00:00 – Welcome & theme intro: Why boredom matters

01:02 – Why it’s hard to say “I’m bored” out loud as an adult

02:20 – The connection between boredom, desire, and overstimulation

04:56 – The endless scroll: how digital life keeps us from experiencing boredom

07:43 – Boredom and restlessness as a signal—not a problem

09:19 – The paradox: wanting to escape boredom while longing for slowness

10:46 – Emotional intimacy, silence, and fear of being alone with our thoughts

13:02 – Boredom in grief, healing, and transitional seasons

14:38 – Avoidance behaviors: organizing, online shopping, numbing, fixing

17:40 – The difference between gentle distraction and true avoidance

19:01 – Making space for “boring” moments without needing to optimize them

20:27 – What we miss when we bypass boredom

21:10 – Bringing reverence to the ordinary: boredom as a bridge to creativity

23:15 – Guided practice: welcoming boredom & softening into stillness

27:50 – Closing reflections: the gift of doing nothing


Resources we mentioned in the episode: 

  • Kristine’s Substack article Let Yourself Be Bored.

    • Elise’s puzzle book Disarray
    • Kristine's snail mail project Proud of You
    • Out of My Skull: The Psychology of Boredom by James Danckert

    • Bored and Brilliant by Manoush Zomorodi

    • How to Do Nothing by Jenny Odell

    • Tiny Floral Arrangement Video by Elise Apffel


    Connect with Us:
    plainview.world

    on Instagram @plai.nview

    Elise Joseph James – elisejosephjames.com

    Kristine Claghorn – claggie.com

    You can also find us over on Substack: Elise & Kristine


    The Episode 6 cover is a photo by Zachary Gray.

    Plain View
    Plain View is a podcast and community exploring self-worth, connection and personal growth. Through individual stories and vulnerable conversations, close friends Kristine Claghorn and Elise Joseph James navigate topics like stress, imposter syndrome, loneliness, aging and more. Plain View shares science-backed practices and tools for cultivating new skills and creating positive change.