"I approach everything like I'm the best receiver on the field." Brian Thomas Jr As our NFL Training Camp tour continues, we had to make a stop in Freddy T land checking out the Jaguars and talking to one the league's rising stars- Brian Thomas Jr! In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder sit down with the wide receiver mid camp as he enters his second NFL season. The former LSU standout opens up about his rookie year lessons, the speed of the league, and how he's approaching year 2 with a sharper mindset and bigger goals. He reflects on his time at LSU and the deep connection with former teammates Jayden Daniels and Malik Nabers who both are making their mark across the league. Brian talks about adjusting to life in Jacksonville, building chemistry with the offense, the growth of quarterback Trevor Lawrence and what the team's been doing differently this offseason to level up. Under new head Coach Liam Coen the offense has potential to be one of the best, especially with the secret weapon and newest attraction, Travis Hunter ready to make a splash on both offense and defense as the landscape is shifting with players coming in more NFL-ready than ever. Giving gratitude to his parents for always helping him chase his dreams and keep him humble through his football journey. Honest, focused, and hungry, Brian shares his vision for what’s next — not just for himself, but for the Jaguars’ offense as they aim to make noise in the AFC. Don't forget to subscribe on YouTube and follow us on social media for our latest updates! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Jalen is still Jalen. I’m still that one. I’m still the one they were looking up to, I’m still the one they will be taking parts of their game from trying to copy mine, I’m still that.” Jalen Ramsey responds to the doubters As our Training Camp tour continues, we visiting Jalen in his new NFL home, and sit down with the three-time All‑Pro cornerback as he embarks on a bold new journey with the Pittsburgh Steelers. After cementing his legacy with a Super Bowl win and with Pro Bowl honors in Jacksonville, Los Angeles, and Miami-Jalen brings his unmatched skill set and swagger to one of the NFL’s most storied franchises. We explore the motivations behind the blockbuster June 30, 2025 trade, what it means to don the iconic black and gold, and how Pittsburgh’s aggressive 2025 Super Bowl push aligns with his championship aspirations  Jalen reflects on his football evolution—how his position versatility (cornerback, potential safety) and league-wide respect make him more than just "another star" on the roster, but a cornerstone of a retooled defense aiming to recapture past glory. As he joins a defense stacked with names like T.J. Watt, Darius Slay Jr., Joey Porter Jr, and a team led by veteran QB Aaron Rodgers, Jalen makes one thing clear: he's still that guy. And now, he’s exactly where he’s supposed to be. We break down how he’ll complement fellow veterans and what his arrival signals about Pittsburgh’s shift toward a win-now mentality during Aaron Rodgers’ anticipated final NFL season. This isn’t just about football—it’s about fit. Jalen talks about how his mentality now mirrors the city itself: blue-collar, unapologetic, and built on pride, toughness, and resilience. He shares how the Steel City has reignited his fire—how he's leaned into being a mentor and a menace, all while preparing to help this storied franchise chase another Lombardi. Join us for a raw, unfiltered look at an athlete who’s still got it—not just on the field, but in his leadership, swagger, and hunger to win. Thank you to our friends at Monarch Money for sponsoring this episode, Check them out here and use code PIVOT to get 50% off your first year. https://www.monarchmoney.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When MIke Tomlin wants to sit down and chop it up, you soak it in and try to take in all his words and wisdom. In this can't-miss 2025 training camp special —Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor—make their annual trip to Latrobe for a powerful, wide-ranging sit-down with Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, just weeks away from one of the most anticipated seasons in franchise history. Tomlin pulls back the curtain on what it’s like coaching Aaron Rodgers, now in black and gold and laser-focused at another shot at a Super Bowl. From the moment Rodgers walked into the building, the standard didn’t change—it elevated. Coach T talks leadership dynamics, the merging of legacies, key pick ups adding star power on both offense and defense and how he's building a locker room that can support both the present and the future. It's a true Sunday service with Coach's honesty and gems dropped as the guys go deep into what Rodgers still brings at age 41, the lessons learned from past seasons, and why this year may look a little different but rooted in the same core principles. Tomlin also reflects on his longevity in the league, the evolution of his leadership style, and the pressure—and privilege—of chasing greatness in a city that demands it. His love affair with football and what drives him each day is shared and he even reveals some secrets that will make the football world say- ohhh now I get it! Tap in now for the full conversation with Mike T as the guys peel back the layers of one of the most respected figures in sports. Video version available on our Pivot YouTube and don't forget to like and comment! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I don’t mind being the Robin to Batman, I love that role.” Lane Johnson All Pro Offensive Lineman x Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl Champion  As our NFL training camp tour continues, we make a stop to catch up with the reigning Super Bowl Champion, Philadelphia Eagles and the man who anchored the team- All Pro Lane Johnson. On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with the superstar offensive tackle, as the Eagles gear up for another season and a pressure-filled training camp. Lane reflects on the highs and lows of his championship journey, the mental and physical preparation that keeps him at the top of his game, and what it takes to stay hungry after reaching the pinnacle of success. He gives personal perspective and locker room insight about his quarterback Jalen Hurts, what makes him a winner and someone who leads by the work he puts in not the words he speaks. Lane describes the moment he found out his team landed Saquon Barkley and how his biggest high on the field is run-first offense and blocking for his running back. With candid insights into the grind of an NFL season, Lane opens up about his battles with injury, mental health struggles, the leadership required in the locker room, and the family-like bond he shares with his teammates. From his early days in the league to winning his first Super Bowl and navigating the pressures that come with being a key player on a constant contender, Lane’s perspective is as real as it gets. Tap in as we talk all things football, the sacrifices behind the scenes, and the mindset of a champion who's ready to do it all over again. This episode is packed with raw emotion, motivation, and a glimpse into the mind of one of the NFL’s most dominant forces. Tune in now to hear Lane Johnson’s story—his journey, his triumphs, and what drives him to be the best out on the field and the respect he's earned from the entire league. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“All that drives me is me, I’m chasing myself. I’m not worried about no lists- I’ve been on the top of them, I’ve been off of them- it’s not gonna make me ball more or go out their suck, it has no bearing on me.” Davante Adams LA Rams As our NFL training camp tour continues, we made the trek to sunny California to catch up with our guy Davante Adams, who is settling into his new digs as a Los Angeles Ram and looking to be apart of something special with his new team. In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, we sit down with the star wide receiver, as he opens up about the highs, lows, and lessons learned from his journey through the NFL. After years of elite play in Green Bay, Davante reflects on the challenges and transitions he's faced as he went from the Packers to the Raiders, to the Jets, and now to LA. Tae discusses the difficulties of bouncing from team to team, and how staying mentally strong allowed him to manage the emotional stress of not getting weighed down- especially through all the changes and losing his original on-field connection with Aaron Rodgers that was built on years of success and created his identity as one of the best pass catchers in all of football. He opens up about how the change of scenery over the years affected his mindset, his play on the field, and how he processed all the noise by staying silent.  He’s not worried about “the best” lists, as he says he plays the game for himself and still puts up numbers that terrorize opposing defenses. In a moment of transparency, Davante shares a side of his journey the world doesn’t see all the time but the famed receiver is committed to showing off who he really is. He shares his welcome to LA moment as the guys talk about players around the league to watch and root for this upcoming season as well as Davante’s personal goals on and off the field.  As he starts this fresh chapter in Los Angeles, Davante talks about what he brings to the Rams: his leadership, work ethic, and undeniable skill. He talks about his belief in quarterback  Matthew Stafford, how this young team is one of the most disciplined units he’s ever been apart of, shares his excitement for working with Coach Sean McVay and how he plans to mesh with the Rams' offense to help bring a championship back to LA. Entering year 12, It’s not about money and status, it’s about creating something he’s yet to experience…. Along with football talk, we dive into Davante's personal side—a family man at heart—and how he’s learned to balance his responsibilities both as a player and as a father. A lot of laughs and locker room talk It’s a raw and real conversation about overcoming adversity, redefining success, and what’s next for one of the NFL’s premier receivers. Be sure to follow along on our NFL camp tour and don’t forget to comment below on your thoughts- we love hearing your feedback... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As our Pivot training camp tour continues, we’ve made our stop down in the A. sitting with Falcons star running back- Bijan Robinson, who right off the football field, sits with Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for an in depth, personal conversation about the next chapter of his young but already impactful NFL career. The Atlanta Falcons star opens up about stepping fully into his role as a leader and playmaker, entering year 3 with more confidence, focus, and responsibility than ever before. Bijan shares what it’s been like to silence the doubters, thrive in a system finally tailored to his skill set, and carry the weight of high expectations with grace and hunger. Stemming from humble beginnings and rooted by his faith- Bijan is ready for what’s ahead.  Bijan reflects on the highs and lows of his early career and how a new sense of clarity—have changed everything. He speaks on the impact of playing under Raheem Morris, a head coach who believes in him fully and isn’t afraid to build the offense around his dynamic skill set. Bijan talks about the team’s transition from veteran Quarterback Kirk Cousins to Michael Penix Jr and what he’s seen from him so far in arm talent, poise, and leadership—and how their chemistry could become one of the league’s most dangerous duos, especially as the team looks to have Bijan expanding his offensive role running routes this season. He also talks about what it meant to have the league’s standard as his position, Saquon Barkley publicly praise him as “the most naturally gifted back of this generation,” and how that respect from a peer pushed him to raise his game. Bijan details his intense offseason training with another star back,  Christian McCaffrey, learning firsthand from one of the most disciplined and productive backs in the league—gaining not only physical tools but a veteran mindset. From legacy talk to work ethic, setbacks to spiritual grounding, Bijan gives one of his most candid interviews yet. This is a must-watch episode for fans of the game, Falcons believers, and anyone who wants to understand what greatness looks like from the inside out. Tap in for more on our Pivot Training Camp tour as we make stops around the country in NFL cities! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I wouldn’t say the league humbled me, I would say I didn’t dream big enough. I was like every other kid, I wanted to make it to the NFL. But what was humbled, was my aspiration and I realize it wasn’t big enough…I want more than just making it.” Jameis Winston From his early NFL highs to on-field struggles, Jameis reflects on how he's matured as a leader, the importance of humility, and the deep-rooted faith that keeps him focused. He shares what he's learned from the likes of Tom Brady, Michael Vick and explains why he's still betting on himself — even in a limited role. In one of the most honest and introspective interviews of camp, Jameis shows why his pivot isn't about giving up—it's about growth, resilience, and redefining success on his own terms. You can’t be around the firery quarterback and not be inspired. The gun slinger is entering his 11th NFL season as the the former number one overall pick is content with his new home in New York, but still not satisfied.  Jameis still thinks about the plays he left on the field in Tampa, and the bitter sweet feeling of watching the GOAT, Tom Brady, lead his team to a Super Bowl… but in this league, it’s about wins and losses, as Jameis reflects back that he didn't have enough W's. There’s a maturity in his tone now as he breaks down to Ryan, Channing and Fred how he's become a man who understands reaction vs response and finally fears the consequences of his decisions, on and off the field, especially the passes he wishes he could have back. He’s a locker room favorite who leads with his faith and his word. There are no secrets with him as transparency at its fullest, he even goes in-depth sharing what happened during his college days with the infamous crab leg story, describes a trip to Africa like a scene from Lion King and details the off-field struggles that transcended into his on-field miscues. Jameis works everyday to be the best teammate he can to the consummate professional Russell Wilson, and the young buck Jackson Dart… and he’s like all of us, anticipating Malik Nabers joining the greats at the Wide Receiveer position. He's loving his role in this locker room and feels it's a much stronger vibe than the one he had when he first arrived back in New Orleans with Marshawn Lattimore, which of course he tells us all about too. Oh and we couldn't let Jameis go without giving us a Pivot speech to keep us motivated as we kick off our NFL Training Camp tour...Be sure to follow along the next month as we travel from city to city bringing you unprecedented conversations around the league. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I was in control of this whole thing, that was the most appealing part of being in NY- just pitching in the Bronx, having that energy and knowing it starts and stops with you is incredible.” CC Sabathia On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, hosts Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder welcome pitcher CC Sabathia, as the guys dig into his storied career, personal journey, and the transition from elite athlete to mentor and icon. The conversation leads off recognizing Sabathia as a first-ballot Hall of Famer with a World Series Title capped by impressive career stats—250+ wins, 3,000+ strikeouts, a 3.74 ERA across 19 MLB seasons—as he talks about the baseball memories and personal journey from Cleveland to Milwaukee to New York and now in Cooperstown with baseball royalty. With his path rooted in family, starting with his father and mother's support from a young age to meeting his forever partner, Amber, as a teenager to growing his family and career together- it's not lost on CC that walking across the Hall of Fame stage is because of those close to him who's held him down through the highs and lows of life. With fame and success, comes a story of personal struggle and inner demons CC managed his entire baseball career. From a high school player to late in his career, the 6x All-Star and 2007 Cy Young winner talks about his addiction to alcohol, not seeing it as a problem and opens up on what finally made him enter rehab in October of 2015, stepping away from the game at a time his Yankees were making a final playoff push. He reveals his fears and struggles during that emotional time and shares how he was able to return to baseball better and stronger while remaining sober for the past decade. Ryan, Channing and Fred highlight Sabathia’s famous workhorse identity: a fierce competitor who often took short rest to support his teams. CC explains why teammate loyalty and responsibility always outweighed self-preservation but being available to play was always a priority. He talks about playing along side his Captain, Derek Jeter, and reveals aspects of Jeter that many don't talk about, calling him his best teammate he ever had. The life of the Big Apple and the spotlight that came with it from celebrity circles to high pressure to pure bliss....He shares how he has no regrets and that there was no better feeling than pitching in the Bronx in front of thousands, knowing that he was in control with it all starting and stopping with him. CC reflects on what it means to be one of only three Black pitchers in history to reach both 250 wins and 3,000 strikeouts, joining legends like Bob Gibson and Fergie Jenkins. He goes on to share how baseball has always been a sport for black athletes but not always black culture, which is something he is dedicated to increasing with his new role working with the MLB player alliance. He speaks on redirecting his leadership—once reserved for the mound—to his kids, sharing insights into fatherhood, sobriety, and purpose beyond baseball. This conversation is beyond baseball, it humanizes a legend through transparency and raw honesty. Comment below and share what you took away from this episode, for us, it unpacked a lot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"The hardship and everything I went through created the fire inside, people don't understand the woman I am." Claressa Shields Heavyweight Undisputed Champion In this powerful, no-holds-barred episode of The Pivot Podcast, the GWOAT herself—Claressa Shields—joins Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for one of her most personal interviews to date. From surviving a tough upbringing in Flint, Michigan to becoming the only boxer—male or female—to be undisputed in two weight classes simultaneously, Claressa shares the raw truth behind her journey. She opens up about the pain that made her, the critics that tried to break her, and the constant pressure of being a Black woman at the top of one of the most male-dominated sports in the world. But it’s not all about the ring. In a deeply personal moment, Claressa reveals the reason behind two of her early dreams: Becoming an Olympic medalist and buying a bed. Sleeping on the floor most of her childhood and always having to fight for acceptance led her to fight for what she wanted. Claressa also lets us in on her private life—specifically her relationship with rapper and hip-hop legend Papoose. She talks about the bond they’ve built, what his steady support means to her, and how love and loyalty outside the ring fuel her fight inside of it, even opening up on motherhood in the near future. It’s a side of Claressa the public rarely sees—vulnerable, grounded, and deeply human. With her next undisputed title defense set for July 26 in Detroit, Claressa shares what’s driving her into this fight, why it feels more personal than ever, and how she's staying focused amid everything—from family to fame to legacy. She addresses the critics who’ve downplayed her success, and the media that still tries to put limits on her greatness while acknowledging that her journey is a lot like her male counterpart, Terrance Bud Crawford, who she calls he twin, not just in the fight game but in life too. This isn't just another sports interview. It's a real conversation with one of the most dominant and dynamic athletes of our time—who’s still fighting for her respect, her people, and her place in history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy Gilmore is all about Happy who breaks the mold by changing the rules of golf and life. 30 years later, Adam Sandler is back with Happy Gilmore 2, starring some familiar faces from the original plus new cast additions but filled with star studded pop ups through out, never knowing who's going to be in one scene to the next with a storyline that really shakes things up! In the same spirit, our special episode of The Pivot in partnership with Netflix, is celebrating “disruptors” who much like Happy Gilmore, have made a tremendous impact in culture, sports and comedy. Filming in front of a live audience from our Happy Place at Top Golf, this episode is full of laughs, insights and unique life experiences. Sitting with comic legends Lavell Crawford and Kym Whitley, we are treated to an unfiltered conversation of not just making it in show business but staying there. We get inside scoop of what it's truly like being on set with Adam Sandler, pressure of working with a high profile cast, challenges of being a disruptor, pushback received and how to make it in a high-stakes world designed for failure. There is no shortage of banter between Channing and Lavell, as Ryan tries to keep it all flowing smoothly and Kym clings onto Fred's calming demeanor. Happy Gilmore 2 premieres on Netflix Friday July 25th and is truly a movie you don't want to miss with a firery cast of celebs, athletes and entertainers who complete part 2 of this story 30 years in the making! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“My son said, so we can’t wear green anymore? And that killed me.” -C.J. Gardner-Johnson In this humbling and unfiltered episode of The Pivot, Super Bowl Champion C.J. Gardner-Johnson sits down with Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder to open up like never before and sets record straight on many questions and rumors surrounding his name and image. The outspoken safety gets real about the highs and lows of his NFL journey — from being traded and dealing with the label of having a “bad reputation,” to playing a key role in Philadelphia's Super Bowl run and the lessons he’s learned along the way. Off the bat, he addresses a recent rumor involving him and NY Giants wide receiver Malik Nabers and leaves no gray area on his side which leads into a deeper discussion around how C.J. is viewed in the NFL. He talks about what it felt like to be misunderstood in the league, how his passion is often mistaken for arrogance, and how those perceptions have impacted his career. C.J. reflects on his time with the Saints and then Lions and finally feeling at home in Philadelphia after winning a championship this past season only to be faced with his biggest pivot yet. Dealing with major heartbreak and trying to sort through confusion, C.J. shares how the darkest times have taught him most about leadership, ,maturity, and accountability. Struggling with things out of his control, his voice full of emotion as he shares to Ryan, Fred and Channing how hard it was on his kids to experience the recent ups and downs of his career. Despite the anguish he felt, C.J. expresses his respect and gratitude for veterans like Lane Johnson in Philly and Malcom Jenkins in New Orleans, holding on to invaluable life lessons. With rare vulnerability and honesty, CJ shares a powerful moment of remorse — expressing what he's sorry for and how he's grown from it. Now entering a new chapter with the Houston Texans, CJ talks about the delayed excitement of joining his new team and building a strong relationship with head coach DeMeco Ryans. He speaks candidly about the trust DeMeco has already shown in him in one unexpected phone call. CJ talks about how he's ready to win and be a part of a young, hungry team with a fierce competitor as the team's leader in Quarterback CJ Stroud. Looking forward to his fresh start to help him mature further both as a player and as a man, CJ tells Ryan, Channing and Fred he's ready for this next chance to be the one where the noise around who he is on and off the field is finally quieted.  This isn’t just about football — it’s about growth, redemption, and the journey of a man who’s still writing his story. Tap in for a conversation that’s raw, real, and full of heart. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pivot Family — you asked, and here we are. Your favorite trio is back: Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder reunite to break down the real stories behind this summer’s hottest headlines. From sports and culture to relationships and personal growth, the guys tackle life’s toughest pivots—and how one decision can change everything. As always, it’s raw, honest, and layered with perspective—locker room wisdom served with laughs, truth, pain, and growth. Lists and rankings are just opinions, and you know what the people say about opinions, so this week, the crew reminds us why impact over income is often the better path. They dive into the cost of fame and the price of trusting the wrong people—like Rams star Puka Nacua’s public relationship fallout, and how young athletes with good hearts often get burned. Tyler Lockett’s story of remaining a virgin until marriage at 30 opens up a powerful conversation on discipline, faith, identity, and resisting the pressure to perform—on and off the field. But you already know—Channing’s take is going to have you in tears laughing, the things he comes up with is just one of a kind! When it comes to sports and culture no topic’s off limits: Cam Newton’s callout of Jayden Daniels—was it personal? RC says this was a moment Cam should have taken a chance to be wrong instead of go for the sophomore slump chatter. Gillie da Kid’s “young bulls ain’t taking my spot” energy—is that confidence or stuck in old ways? Asante Samuel coming for Chris Carter—what does it say about legends letting go or how OG's treat rising stars? Then things get a little more serious.... Naomi Osaka’s emotional return to the spotlight sparks a vulnerable dialogue on mental health, pressure, and what it means when even greatness doesn’t feel like enough. The guys speak openly about loss, injuries, failure, and the quiet battles no one sees. And finally, with Texas devastated by recent flooding, they reflect on how life can shift in an instant—regardless of status or success. Tragedy doesn't discriminate. And as always, The Pivot is about more than just moving on—it's about moving forward with intention, purpose, and gratitude. We hope this episode gives you something—a laugh, a new perspective, or the clarity you didn’t know you needed, because that's what family is for! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“It’s the perfect combo between being a beauty and a beast, and understanding I can separate the two. Knowing who I am in the ring is just an animal, who works hard, been in camp for 8 weeks and then there’s Alycia who wants to do her hair, get dressed up, uplift others- it really throws people off.” Alycia Baumgardner, Undisputed super featherweight boxing champion With her highly anticipated return to the ring streaming live on Netflix July 11, undisputed super featherweight champion Alycia Baumgardner joins The Pivot Podcast for a raw and revealing conversation just days before fight night. Known for her knockout power and unapologetic confidence, Alycia opens up about what this moment means—and the mindset it takes to stay at the top. Alycia opens up to Ryan, Channing and Fred about her journey—from overcoming early setbacks and self-doubt to rising through the ranks and capturing titles with flair both in and out of the ring. Her humble beginnings grounded by having her father as her boxing coach and life coach engrained the value of hard work, chasing dreams and being resilient. She breaks down the emotional moment of becoming world champion while sharing the heartbreak of losing her father on this journey to top of women's boxing and how it has reinvigorated her motivation beyond the ring. Going from Amatuer to Champ, we talk about the pivotal moments that shaped Alycia’s boxing style and fueled her fierce determination, molding a certain part of her approach after Mike Tyson. Being mentally tough with a strong mindset, Alycia shares how she handles pressure preparing for a fight, walking to the ring and the second the bell rings how everything turns from fuel to focus. With a new trainer and signed to Jake Paul's MVP boxing, it's all about redefining women's sports, sharing her perspective on on being a champion in a male-dominated sport and paving the way for future generations. We also dive into her passions away from the ring, with mental wellness advocacy, crafting her personal brand, fashion, modeling and how visiting Africa truly changed her. This conversation is a blueprint for channelling discipline, resilience, and confidence—no matter what your arena may be and also having the courage to rewrite your own narrative. It's high stakes come July 11th, but Alycia is more than ready for the chance to be on the biggest stage at Madison Square Garden with the world watching on Netflix as she defends her title and furthers a historical movement in women's sports. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us for a transformative discussion with Grammy-winning gospel artist Kirk Franklin, whose musical genius and unwavering faith have reshaped contemporary Christian culture. In one of the most raw and revealing Pivot Podcasts to date, Kirk sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred to open up about the deeply personal battles he's faced behind the spotlight. Known for his musical influence, Kirk shows a different side here—one marked by pain, healing, and redemption. With honesty, humor, and deep vulnerability, he talks about what it really takes to heal—when the cameras are off and the crowd is gone. The guys are able to get him to let his guard down, turn heavy moments light and provide a safe space as the conversation transcends into identity, family, and finding purpose not just through success, but through surrender. In this moving episode, Kirk opens up about: The art of writing hope: Exploring how music becomes a vessel for healing—both for himself and the world. Faith through the fire: Navigating personal struggles, spiritual seasons, and finding renewal in the midst of chaos. The scars of a turbulent upbringing – and how trauma shaped his views on love, trust, and self-worth. Faith when it’s messy – how he wrestled with God during his darkest moments and found peace on the other side. Reuniting with the father he never knew – and the emotional toll of reconciling decades of abandonment. Fatherhood and forgiveness – breaking the cycle for his own children and choosing healing over bitterness. Leading with authenticity: What it means to shepherd a movement when you're also the one being led. With profound vulnerability and trademark energy, Kirk Franklin shares stories of redemption, breakthrough, and creative inspiration. This episode offers a blueprint for staying rooted in purpose, pursuing excellence, and never feeling to flawed to forgive and move forward. Comment and let us know your thoughts on this episode! Thank you to our friends and partners at KaChava for sponsoring this episode. Go to ⁠⁠https://kachava.com⁠⁠ and use code PIVOT for 15% off your next order for a limited time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As our inside look into the 2025 X Games continues, we sit for a special conversation with Skateboard icon Nyjah Huston, who we first had the chance to meet a few years back on The Pivot, and although we get to sit with him again now, it feels as it's a completely new person, as his talent is still top tier, but Nyjah's energy and life perspective is on an entirely different level. As the background noise of Salt Lake City’s mega ramp echoes around them, this episode gives a front-row seat to Nyjah's inner workings—his mental framework, his resilience, and how he envisions the next chapter of his legendary career. Nyjah brought a unique blend of technical insight, raw emotion, and phenomenal perspective sharing with Ryan, Channing and Fred about how life and his sport continues to evolve as he has changed as well. A few of the things we chat about:  Controlling the uncontrollableNyjah opened up about the razor-thin margin between victory and failure on the street course. He shared how he trains his mindset to treat each run as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity—because in competitions like this, "you get one shot."  High-stakes mental focusIn his signature calm tone, he walked listeners through his mental prep before high-stress runs. Emphasizing visualization and emotional detachment, he explained how he stays in the moment: “I don’t think past tricks. I just skate.”  Trick evolution in real timeNyjah detailed how he and his team approach trick selection during events—balancing hype-worthy high-risk lines against guaranteed clean runs. He spoke on adapting instinctively to course flow and weather variables.  Injury, recovery & longevityHaving faced setbacks recently , he revealed new rehab routines, strength protocols, and mental wellness check-ins—enhanced by his ongoing work with spiritual mentor Chervin Jafarieh.  Chasing gold, redefining legacyReflecting on his fierce Olympic & X Games pedigree, Nyjah admitted he's at a crossroads—driven still by competitive hunger but also exploring the freer, street-skater version of himself. He hopes to build a legacy that balances medals with creativity and personal expression.  Beyond pro skatingThe conversation also veered into life off the board—his newer ventures in fashion, music, and philanthropy. Always disciplined, he credits a humble, growth-minded support team for keeping him grounded beyond the ramp. Tap in now for this special conversation live from the X Games! It's filled with a lot of gems around personal growth, focus, commitment and competition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pivot Family! We are out here in Salt Lake City checking out a whole new world for us as we are on site for the 2025 X Games! As the X Games get underway, The Pivot Podcast sits down with two of the most explosive names in action sports — Ryan Williams, the BMX innovator pushing the limits of what's possible, and Dashawn Jordan, the street skater known for his power, precision, and style. Two completely different approaches to each's sport, but unified by the same goal- compete to win. Ryan, Channing and Fred get introduced to the extreme side of action sports, the high risk-high reward mentality and the laser focus needed to lock in on the one opportunity that measures success or failure. We talk mindset, motivation, and mayhem — from landing never-been-done tricks to staying locked in under pressure. Ryan and Dashawn open up about their journeys, what it takes to stay at the top, and what fans can expect at this year’s X Games. Whether it’s the mega ramp or the street course, these athletes are ready to redefine progression. Don’t miss this raw and real conversation with two athletes redefining their sports and giving us a glimpse of what it takes to compete at the highest level. Comment and let us know what you think! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I realized- dam, I’m causing them shit now and I’m not able to take it…I almost need to save them from me now. I’ll come save you from anybody, and now, I have to come save you from me.” Draymond Green In one of the most personal and revealing episodes of The Pivot Podcast, 4x NBA champion and outspoken leader Draymond Green joins Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for a raw, unfiltered conversation that dives deep into the mind of one of sports' most polarizing figures. Draymond opens up about his journey from Saginaw, Michigan to the NBA spotlight, the evolution of his role with the Golden State Warriors, and the challenge of balancing intensity with leadership. He reflects on the highs and lows of his career—including that infamous punch—and how holding teammates accountable has shifted into something deeper: holding himself to an even higher standard. He speaks candidly about the moments he regrets—on and off the court—and how his passion, at times unchecked, has shaped him as a teammate, a leader, and a man. Offering rare insight into who he is beyond the headlines, Draymond contrasts public perception with personal truth, sharing emotional stories of fatherhood, the sacrifices of family, and one pivotal moment that nearly made him walk away from the game he loves. He also addresses Steph Curry’s recent admission of imposter syndrome—why it surprised him, and why it didn’t—shedding light on the bond between teammates whose dynasty was fueled by doubt and relentless drive. Draymond also breaks down LeBron James’ take on ring culture, offering clarity on a message he believes was misunderstood, and shares thoughts on KD’s future and the shifting nature of loyalty in the NBA. From legacy to leadership, mindset to media, Draymond doesn’t hold back—offering one of the most honest, vulnerable, and introspective conversations of his career. With retirement now looming, he reflects on the fears that come with closing this chapter and the legacy he hopes to leave behind. This isn’t just a basketball conversation—it’s a story of growth, accountability, and a story of one of the most misunderstood sports' figures. Tap in now for a side of Draymond Green you've never heard before. Don't forget to subscribe for the latest content and comment to let us know what you think!  Get a free trial at https://www.shipstation.com/pivot. Thanks to ShipStation for partnering with us on this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Comedy, I compare it chefs, you are going to make what you are going to make and people who are gonna like it, will like it. Can’t worry about it, as long as you know you are a good chef.” Godfrey- Comedian  On this powerful and laugh-filled episode of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder sit down with the one and only Godfrey—comedian, actor, and unapologetic truth-teller. Known for his razor-sharp wit and fearless commentary, Godfrey dives into everything from the evolution of comedy and cancel culture to growing up Nigerian in America and making it in the entertainment industry. Godfrey has been a trailblazer in stand-up for over two decades with his voice becoming a vital force both in comedy and culture. Proud of his Nigerian roots, Godfrey shares stories around his upbringing, importance of education and his family values that helped steer him down an unlikely path of finding success on the stage. In a raw, hilarious, and eye-opening conversation, Godfrey shares personal stories of his journey, reflects on the importance of staying authentic in today’s world, and shares insight into creating viral impressions that have taken social media by storm. Nothing’s off-limits as Godfrey breaks it down with Ryan, Channing, and Fred—bringing laughs, dropping gems, and reminding us why real talk still matters. This episode is a deep dive into the mind of a comic who’s not just funny, but fearless. Tap in to laugh, learn, and understand why Godfrey doesn’t just tell jokes—he tells his truth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"When you went through what I went through, there’s nothing to celebrate about that…I look back at all of it, there’s nothing cool about it, I’m hurt from all of it. I have real trauma and pain inside of me from all of that.” Dejounte Murray  In this powerful episode of The Pivot Podcast, NBA guard Dejounte Murray sits down with Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder for a raw, emotional, and reflective conversation on how as a young man he defied odds making it off the Seattle streets to becoming a basketball star to choosing an unlikely life path that forever changed him. Dejounte reveals what it was like growing up in a tough environment, detailing experiences with violence, homelessness, and parental incarceration as he shared how these hardships fueled his determination to succeed and provided the foundation for his resilience on and off the court. With pain and hurt in his voice, Dejounte find the words to share with the guys on the healing process of what he did in his early life, what he witnessed and how survivor's remorse eats at him, saying how everyone he knew from home is either in jail or deceased, and he starts most of his mornings by emailing his friends and relatives who are in prison. Overcoming the unimaginable as he explains how he went from catching a criminal case at 11 years old, to juvenile detention to playing one year of college basketball before being drafted in the first round by the San Antonio Spurs. Discussing his NBA journey and reflecting on lessons learned, Dejounte shares how instrumental his time was with the Spurs, specifically Coach Popovich, who was more than a coach and served as his first real father-figure guiding him through the ups and downs of life. He talked about the pressure of being a young player in a storied franchise, the complexities of team dynamics, transitioning to the Atlanta Hawks, dealing with injuries, setbacks and now trying to navigate life and basketball playing with the New Orleans Pelicans, his latest NBA home. Ryan gets into the growth and maturity sides of life, as Dejounte is unique in he doesn't drink, do drugs, party and very rarely seen outside in a public setting. Committed to his family, being a father and the game he loves so much, Dejounte isn't willing to risk any outside factor messing up this gift of life outside what he used to know and doesn't want anything to interfere with his healing. A heart-wrenching conversation at times, but one definitely worth listening to as Dejounte's courage to open up on overcoming life-changing obstacles, and the pivotal moments that shaped his path to success, will impact you in ways you never thought possible. This is more than a sports story—it’s a story of resilience, redemption, and rising above. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more unfiltered conversations every week. Thank you to our friends at Monarch Money for sponsoring this episode, Check them out here and use code PIVOT to get 50% off your first year. https://www.monarchmoney.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“What story are you living and what story are you leaving.” DeLand McCullough In this powerful Father’s Day special of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan, Fred, and Channing sit down with Super Bowl-winning coach DeLand McCullough for one of the most incredible and inspiring conversations about family and faith. Known for his work on the field, DeLand opens up about the deeply personal journey off the field that reshaped his life — discovering his biological father as an adult and learning how that revelation changed his understanding of identity, fatherhood, and destiny. It’s the kind of story you’d think was scripted in Hollywood — a man at birth grows up never knowing his biological family, becomes a star athlete and championship coach, and then, in a twist no screenwriter could invent, discovers that the mentor who helped shape his football journey is actually his biological father. It’s a full-circle moment filled with fate, family, and rejuvenation — a real-life ‘long-lost father’ story that doesn’t just tug at your heartstrings, it rewrites them. Through candid reflection and heartfelt honesty, he talks about what it means to be a father — to his own sons, including those following in his football footsteps — and how the lessons he's learned have molded the man he is today. This isn’t just a conversation about football — it’s about the bonds that define us, the stories we carry, and the choices we make that can break generational cycles and that faith is real if you allow it to lead you. We get into all the hows, the whys and whats but for more detailed perspective, check out DeLand's book- Runs In The Family, for a written adaptation of his story, one that seems fiction but as real as it comes.  Tune in and Pivot with purpose on this day, as we celebrate Father’s Day with a story that will move you, inspire you, and remind you of the strength in every day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices