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Pitch The PM
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4 days ago
Pitch The PM is the professional investor’s podcast where host Doug Garber dives deep into high-conviction stock ideas using his Variant View Investment Checklist. It’s a real-time look at the research process, blending lessons from Buffett, Munger, and Lynch with modern AI tools. Join Doug, ex-Citadel top analyst and Millennium Sr PM, as he works through his Buffett-inspired 20-slot punch card. Learn, laugh, and sharpen your edge.
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Pitch The PM is the professional investor’s podcast where host Doug Garber dives deep into high-conviction stock ideas using his Variant View Investment Checklist. It’s a real-time look at the research process, blending lessons from Buffett, Munger, and Lynch with modern AI tools. Join Doug, ex-Citadel top analyst and Millennium Sr PM, as he works through his Buffett-inspired 20-slot punch card. Learn, laugh, and sharpen your edge.
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EP.008: Palantir ($PLTR): Irrationally Overvalued - Could Significant Index Rebalance be the Catalyst to Break it?
Pitch The PM
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4 months ago
EP.008: Palantir ($PLTR): Irrationally Overvalued - Could Significant Index Rebalance be the Catalyst to Break it?

In this episode of Pitch The PM, host Doug Garber sits down with Adam Parker, founder of Trivariate Research, to discuss one of the market’s most buzzed-about stocks—Palantir (PLTR). Parker brings a sobering view of why PLTR’s irrational valuation could be set to crack on a significant index rebalance.  After increasing over five fold over the last year and reaching a market cap of over $300 billion, PLTR is slated to be removed from the Russell mid-cap index where it is over an 8% weight.  The discussion spans index rebalancing mechanics, passive investing distortions, and what it means when a $300B+ company is still classified as a mid-cap. Tune in to understand how supply and demand stock mismatches—rather than company fundamentals—can potentially drive stock prices.

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[00:00:0] 1. What ACTION do I want the Portfolio Manager to take?

Sell or short PLTR.

Parker argues it's the most overvalued stock he's seen in his multi-decade career and believes the risk-reward skews heavily negative in the short term due to index rebalancing.

[00:04:34] 2. Do I UNDERSTAND this business?

Parker admits he isn’t a fundamental expert on Palantir’s operations but understands the key drivers of its valuation—mainly government contracts, AI positioning, and retail enthusiasm.

[00:05:21] 3. Is the stock available at a REASONABLE price today?

No. He emphasizes that PLTR  trades at an extreme multiple of future revenue, with enterprise value/sales far above any rational historical benchmark.

[00:06:39] 4. Why is this stock MIS-PRICED?

Because of index fund mechanics, “forced” buying from mid-cap PMs, strong retail momentum,  exposure to the AI theme and government contracts.  

[00:12:22] 5. What is the VARIANT VIEW vs the street?

Most investors are buying due to momentum or index requirements or risk-management (to own at least part of a large index component). Parker’s view is rooted in historical data: no company of Palantir’s size has ever grown fast enough to justify such a valuation.

[00:13:05] 6. What is the EVIDENCE?

Historical analysis of EV/revenue multiples and historical growth comparisons. Palantir’s implied growth rate is historically unprecedented for a company of its size.

[00:17:05] 7. What are the CATALYSTS for the street to realize the view?

The June 28 Russell rebalance, where Palantir will be removed from mid-cap indexes. This will likely trigger large-scale forced selling, especially from passive and mid-cap growth funds.

[00:25:38] 8. What is it WORTH if the bet is right?

If PLTR re-rates to the second most expensive company instead of the first, Parker estimates a 50% downside—possibly more if sentiment shifts.

[00:26:59] 9. What is the OTHER SIDE of the bet?

Continued retail inflows, AI enthusiasm, government contract momentum, or a broad market rally could keep the stock elevated or even push it higher. Parker discusses MSTR and APP as possible hedges to isolate the negative impact of the PLTR index imbalance.

[00:34:28] 10. Is management ALIGNED with ownership?

To some degree—CEO Alex Karp holds around $1 billion in stock, but the company is also heavily owned by large passive managers. Parker sees no immediate red flags but also doesn’t weigh alignment heavily in this short thesis.

Learn more about the Russell mid-cap index: HERE


💡 This episode is sponsored by AlphaSense. Use the link here for Complimentary access — https://www.alpha-sense.com/Pitch/


Links:

Trivector Research: https://trivariateresearch.com/

Adam Parker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-parker-759542179

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Disclosure:
This is not Investment Advice. Speakers in the episode may have positions in the securities discussed and are under no obligation to inform you of any changes.

Pitch The PM
Pitch The PM is the professional investor’s podcast where host Doug Garber dives deep into high-conviction stock ideas using his Variant View Investment Checklist. It’s a real-time look at the research process, blending lessons from Buffett, Munger, and Lynch with modern AI tools. Join Doug, ex-Citadel top analyst and Millennium Sr PM, as he works through his Buffett-inspired 20-slot punch card. Learn, laugh, and sharpen your edge.