In this episode, Clayton interviews Chris and Katie from the Animal People Recruitment Company. The trio discusses the origins of the business, their passion for the pet and animal health industry, and the unique challenges and successes they have encountered in their recruitment work. They delve into the importance of cultural fit in hiring, the value of transparency in salary negotiations, and share amusing anecdotes from their experiences in the industry. KEY TAKEAWAYS The recruitment company focuses on the pet and animal health industry, offering specialized services for commercial roles within these businesses. Emphasizing the significance of understanding and assessing cultural fit for candidates in the recruitment process to ensure a good match with the company. Encouraging candidates to be authentic in their applications and interactions, showcasing their passion and skills relevant to the role. Highlighting the importance of open and honest discussions about salary expectations and avoiding ambiguity in salary bandings. Observing trends such as a focus on the human-animal bond, innovation in products like freeze-dried raw food, collagen, and CBD products, and a growing emphasis on cat-related brands and products. BEST MOMENTS "Recruitment done well will be the best money that you ever spend for your business, because without the right people in your business, you are nothing." "60% of our candidates placed last year came from outside of industry." "AI will never be able to really do what we do, and that's really get under the skin of someone and make them feel authentic enough to be themselves." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few.  Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals.https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors