“I think it is important for us to exam how our fatigue is both the signal that something has not been working and also the thing that might at sometimes get in the way of us getting in the connection that we need, I think it works in both directions.”  - Dr. Hillary L. McBride Dr. Hillary L. McBride is a therapist, researcher, speaker and writer. She loves to help see people grow, heal, change, and come into more fullness in themselves and their relationships. She is passionate about the well-being of all people, and wants to make psychology and academic research accessible to a wide variety of people. Dr. McBride joins Tommy, Olivia, and Becka for the first episode of the new year and season four of the Permission To Be Podcast. If you would like to learn more in community and/or help support the creation of the Permission To Be Podcast please go to https://www.patreon.com/tommyallgood Click here to learn more about the upcoming PTB Book Club and for this episodes show notes.