Why teaching about dying, hospice, and the natural cycle of life and death matters to pets, parents, and professionals. In this candid conversation, Gail and Karen explore the hidden gaps in veterinary education, especially around end-of-life care, the natural dying process, and how our cultural fear of death has shaped the way veterinarians are trained. From hospice and palliative care to ritual, grief, and honoring the sacred moment of passing, this episode invites listeners to consider: What if we redefined how we teach and talk about death — not just in veterinary schools, but in society as a whole? Whether you're a pet parent, a veterinarian, or someone caring for a beloved animal near the end of life, this heartfelt discussion offers perspective, compassion, and a path forward. Includes: Pet loss Hospice and natural death Euthanasia culture Veterinary education gaps Cultural disconnection from death Compassion fatigue and mental health 📌 Related Resource - Blog Post: "Rethinking Veterinary Education: Why Training for Death and Dying Matters" 💬 If this episode touched your heart, you’re not alone.The BrightHaven Caregivers’ Hub is our supportive membership community for pet parents navigating caregiving, anticipatory grief, and all the moments in between. We gather to share stories, ask questions, and care for each other as we care for our animals. If you’re walking this path, we’d be honored to walk it with you. 🔗 Learn more about the Hub: https://brightpathforpets.com/caregivers-hub/ 📌Thanks for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review 🐶⭐🐱 📌Learn More from BrightHaven Caregiver AcademyFor free resources, upcoming workshops, and a supportive community dedicated to navigating life with your aging or ill pet: Visit our website: brightpathforpets.com Join us on Youtube: www.youtube.com/@brighthaven_animals  📌Connect with Us on Social: Facebook: www.facebook.com/brightpathforpets Instagram: @brightpathforpets 📌Disclaimer: This content is for educational purposes and not a substitute for professional advice. As always, remember that our insights come from decades of caregiving experience. For any medical questions, your veterinarian is the best resource.