In this episode, Lachlan talks with Jerar (@thepainillusion), an Exercise Physiologist who used to deal with long-term back pain. He shares what he learned from his own struggles and why pain doesn't always mean something is badly wrong. They talk about why scan findings can be unnecessarily alarming, how some advice from health professionals can actually hinder recovery and why getting stronger doesn't always mean your pain will go away. If you've ever had pain that won't go away - or want to help someone who does - this conversation will help you see pain in a new light. What you'll hear: * Why pain isn't always a sign of damage * What "The Pain Illusion" really means * Why scans and back problems don't always match up * How to think differently about strength and movement Links & Resources: * Pain Coach App offer - 1 month free with an initial online consultation [https://www.physiopaincoach.com.au/book-physio-with-lachlan-townend] * Pain Coach app: take the guesswork out of pain relief [https://paincoach.online/] * The Pain Illusion  [https://www.instagram.com/thepainillusion/?hl=en] * Your MRI & Persistent Lower Back Pain: A Modern Day Horror Movie by Oliver Davis [https://www.chronicallyfit.co/blog/your-mri-amp-persistent-lower-back-pain-a-modern-day-horror-movie?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAacciTkcWzMKimKukwUWayor3sbkAaYPcMjD4tP5X1bvxldhbyMNTOHq-NG6vQ_aem_IQ9fQFWhjYqKpq4FdF3KrQ] * Why do ineffective treatment seem helpful? A Brief Review by Steve Hartman [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19822008/]