1:00 - Please help us to welcome Dean Tracy on our show!

• Being that we have a guest on this episode, these show notes are going to be a little low key… because it is really hard to do the whole, super detailed, awesome quotes, things with so many cooks in the kitchen… so deal

5:03 - The Matthew principle

7:25 - Roger Banister and the 4-minute mile

13:36 - Religion, Science, and their relationship: Brought to you by Dean Tracy

34:04 - Having just talked about what science is in theory… What does science seem to be in practice?

38:49 - Dean references the Trolly experiment! We all about that one here.. It’s kinda our podcast art and all

41:10 - We come to the full realización…. This show isn’t about thought experiments, it is about failed thought experiments. **Dun dun dun**

46:10 - Does science require faith

47:00 - “You can trust something because it is trustworthy” - Dean

• I low key love this quote

51:30 - Does Luke think science requires faith? Hard to tell at this point….

52:40 - Correction, does the belief in science require faith?

58:00 - Dean’s thought experiment: A machine has been tested and shown to “always” accurately report if someone is in pain or not. You are experiencing pain, but when the doctor uses this machine, it says you are not in pain… who do you believe?

• Devin’s answer - I stepped in the machine, I know I am in pain, so why would I believe this machine? The interesting part is that the doctor who is helping me will not believe that I am in pain
• Luke’s answer - I would trust the machine, why should I trust my own brain?
  (Luke's point intentionally oversimplified, to make this dichotomy more epic on paper)
• Dean's answer - The machine will likely be trusted.. But fundamentally will never be able to accurately do its job, because the experience of pain is subjective

1:09:ish - Devin gets heated against the cultural perspective of science and takes it out on Luke!

1:13:00 - What are the claims of Philosophy?

We should just name this episode “Correct me if I am wrong.”

1:17:44 - We are going to figure everything out before we let Dean go

1:28:00 - Philosophy is the love of knowledge, knowledge is dangerous, scientific advancement, human advancement, lets limit who has knowledge… is this deductive?

1:31:29 - So….. Luke left….

• Think he’s going to the bathroom…..
• Think I can hear the water running…..

1:35:00 - Dean’s secret uncovered

• Going from childhood to adulthood occurs the moment you realize that nobody knows how to run your life better than you do.

1:39:30 - We have agreed: Stars exist!

1:45:10 - Luke admitted he cares about you guys!! (He said he wants to make sure this is good for the people listening)

1:49:10 - When you ask a philosopher a question, if the question is good enough, you wont get an answer… you’ll get a bigger question

1:54:10 - He did it again! Luke really does care about you guys… kinda bums me out to be honest…

Thank you for joining us, Dean

1:56:33 - Luke thinks I am gonna put work into these show notes…. I told you guys from the start, I’m not gonna try to keep up on these ones...

1:57:20 - We still don’t have an outro