Dennis and Robin delve into the fundamental concepts of rules and values and their significance in handling manipulation. They emphasize the importance of distinguishing between rules and values, illustrating how manipulators exploit this distinction to maintain control. Through practical examples, the hosts provide strategies for setting and enforcing boundaries when dealing with manipulators, stressing the necessity of clear, specific, and unyielding rules alongside appropriate consequences. Listeners are encouraged to start small, practice consistency, and stay vigilant to effectively manage interactions with manipulative individuals.   Topics 00:42 Understanding Rules and Values 01:44 Manipulators and Value-Based Discussions 05:19 Setting Boundaries with Manipulators 06:59 Manipulative Tactics and Consequences 08:56 Enforcing Rules and Handling Pushback 13:40 The Mindset of Manipulators 14:54 Setting Boundaries with Manipulators 15:41 The Importance of Consistency 17:51 Starting Small: Practicing Boundary Setting 19:18 Handling Mockery and Public Humiliation 21:43 Values and Rule Enforcement 24:53 Practical Tips for Rule Setting 28:27 Conclusion and Contact Information