A new episode of Outspoken continues our deepdive into the issue of trans rights in sport.Rugby prides itself on a motto of “rugby for all.” Yet on October 9, 2020, World Rugby banned trans women from the highest level of the sport — becoming the first international governing body to do. The “science” used to justify this ban is a sham. We get into that. But frankly, scientific arguments around this issue in rugby, running and sport at large misses the actual point. What those arguing against inclusion seem to forget is that they are toying with real people’s lives, including the life of the brilliant, kind, and delightful Grace McKenzie. Sport has played an integral role lifting Grace up throughout her life, and ultimately affirming her as a human. World Rugby striped that sanctuary away. Yet Grace rose to the challenge to fight for this foundational human right If you want to listen, you can find the episode wherever you listen to podcasts. EDITOR’S NOTE: Since recording, the Rugby World Cup has been moved to 2022. You can sign the petition in support of Grace and her fellow trans ruggers here: https://www.change.org/p/world-rugby-keep-rugby-open-to-trans-women-athletes Outspoken is a thereabouts production. Produced and edited by Abigail Levene, & Angus Morton. Sound design and mix by Ben Cranell. Executive producers Isaac Karsen & Angus Morton. Music by the enigmatic Builders Tea. Watch our films, read our stories and much more over at www.thereabouts.co Music: @_builderstea thereabouts: @hereorthereabouts Abby: @aplevene Gus: @thatisgus