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Outside the Secret Service Podcast
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25 episodes
11 hours ago
A podcast where the former, fired and retired Agents and Officers of the Secret Service come to share their stories about what it was like to work inside one of America’s most elite law enforcement agencies.
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A podcast where the former, fired and retired Agents and Officers of the Secret Service come to share their stories about what it was like to work inside one of America’s most elite law enforcement agencies.
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Government
History,
True Crime
Episodes (20/25)
Outside the Secret Service Podcast
024 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Robert "Bobby Mac" McDonald
Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Robert "Bobby Mac" McDonald joins the OTSS podcast to trace his path from serving as a federal probation officer to 20+ years in the U.S. Secret Service. He generously shares behind-the-scenes stories from New Haven, D.C., both the Presidential and Vice Presidential detail and his post-USSS time with the NBA. Now an assistant professor at the University of New Haven, Bobby Mac reflects on ethics, leadership, preparing the next generation of practitioners, and practical insights about AI, accountability, and life after federal service.
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11 hours ago
1 hour 10 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
023 - Retired Deputy Chief of the Secret Service Uniformed Division Catrina Bonus
Retired Deputy Chief Katrina Bonus, shares her start-to-finish journey in the Secret Service Uniformed Division, tracing its history, mission, and day-to-day duties protecting the White House complex, and so much more, in the Nation's Capitol. She recalls defining moments from Oklahoma City, memorable encounters on post, the challenges of construction and security, serving as the first woman Deputy Chief, and her transition to retirement where she continues to serve the US Secret Service.   #Patriotism #WhiteHouseHistory #Profession #ServiceToOthers #WonderWoman
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
022 - Former Assistant to the Special Agent in Charge Jerome Pickett
This week, I'm fortunate to sit down with the inestimable Jerome Pickett. Jerome started as an intern in the New York Field Office, then hired on as a Special Agent in the same office. He later served on the Counter Assault Team and the Presidential Protective Division where he always made a positive impact.  As interesting as his career in the Secret Service is the road which lead him there and the path he charted afterwards. After leaving the Secret Service, Jerome served as the Chief Security Officer for the NBA, McDonalds and, now, Elevance Health. He is as kind as he is competent and the kind of leader we hope to be or work for.
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 29 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
021 - Retired Assistant to the Special Agent in Charge John Constantine
Retired Special Agent John Constantine joins us to discuss his 20+ year career in the US Secret Service, focusing on life after retirement, identity transition, and the mindset needed for protective operations. The episode covers counter‑assault team experiences, leadership lessons, physical and mental health challenges for retirees, diplomatic and operational demands of global protective work, and John’s post‑service plans including consulting and a forthcoming book.
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1 month ago
1 hour 46 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
020 - UNGA. A special look at the role of the US Secret Service in securing New York City for the annual UN General Assembly
Join fan favorites Kevin Dye and Todd Jenkins as we unpack the Secret Service’s role in securing New York City for the annual United Nations General Assembly. We share firsthand stories about the massive logistics undertaking, long hours, cultural clashes, and unexpected moments that define UNGA in New York City. The episode is heavy on humor and hard-earned lessons, post assignments, and memorable incidents — offering you a behind-the-scenes look at how one of the world’s largest security operations is planned and executed.
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1 month ago
1 hour 21 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
019 - Retired Assistant to the Special Agent in Charge Frank Kelley
From driving limousines to lockup, Retired Special Agent Frank Kelley sits down to recount a 23-year Secret Service career - from field investigations and presidential protection to an international counterfeit takedown.  Frank also discusses his move to Inspector General for the South Carolina Department of Corrections, the growing drone-and-cellphone contraband problem inside prisons, and candid personal anecdotes about life on the job.
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1 month ago
1 hour 28 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
018 - Former Special Agent Jon Wackrow
On this episode of Outside the Secret Service, former Special Agent Jon Wackrow recounts his unexpected path into the Secret Service from a career in the hospitality industry. Jon's career teaches us about the power of relationships. Join us as we explore his experiences from being in the training academy during 9/11 (returning to a field office that no longer physically existed), and his years on protective and investigative details. Now as a CNN law enforcement analyst, Jon helps us understand some of the cultural challenges inside the agency and the lessons of teamwork and leadership that have shaped his post-service career.
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1 month ago
1 hour 37 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
017 - Retired Special Agent Darin Kinder
As America approaches the 24th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on our homeland, it's only fitting to hear the story of an Agent who witnessed it first hand. Now retired, Special Agent Darin Kinder recounts what brought him to the US Secret Service in 2000, what happened on 9/11 as a young agent in the New York Field Office, and what motivated him to serve an additional 24 years in the organization.  Since retirement, Darin spends his time as a professional speaker with Fierce Faith and has recently published a book, 'Bury Me in a Dirty Suit'. His book chronicles his account of the events on 9/11 and the impact it had on his faith. Committed to pursuing his passion and purpose until he's called home by God, he's committed to not wasting a single day.   For speaker bookings: darinkinder.com and fierce-faith.com   Book link:  https://a.co/d/7jMnSYm   #Faith #DoTheNextThing #Resilience #Humility #USCoastGuard  
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2 months ago
1 hour 45 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
016 - Retired Special Agent in Charge Cindy Marble
Retired Special Agent Cindy Marble joins the OTSS podcast to trace her Secret Service career—from being inspired by Watergate to posts in Houston, the Washington Field Office, the Intelligence Division, and the Presidential Protective Detail. She shares frontline stories and insights about threat assessment, mental health intervention, and how her protective intelligence work led to a new role in the private sector with a focus on connecting scattered open-source information and preventing threats. A generational leader, Cindy shares insights about how to lead high-achievers in a zero-fail mission. 
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2 months ago
1 hour 42 minutes

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
015 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jerry Williams
Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jerry Williams recounts his journey from Uniformed Division posts in D.C. to investigations, Presidential protection for George H.W. Bush, Camp David assignments, and international advances in Northern Ireland. He shares memorable moments and lessons on leadership, process, and public service. This episode offers a candid, fast-paced look at daily life in the Secret Service, the evolution of protection and investigative work, and how those experiences shaped a long federal career after leaving the Service.
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2 months ago
1 hour 41 minutes 44 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
014 - Retired Special Agent in Charge Rad Jones
You're in for a captivating conversation with Rad Jones, a retired Special Agent in Charge of the Detroit Field Office. As humble as he is capable, SAIC Jones shares remarkable experiences from his career, starting just nine months before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the life and times of a Secret Service Agent (and the agency) from a bygone era, filled with insider anecdotes and pivotal moments in U.S. history.   #Resilience #Resourceful #JFKAssassination #KeepTheSecretInSecretService #USSSValues
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2 months ago
1 hour 56 minutes 32 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
013 - PT. 2 Retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta
Every job in the US Secret Service is important and comes with tremendous responsibility. None, however, may come with more responsibility than the Special Agent in Charge of a Protective Division. They are not only ultimately responsible for the safety and security of the Protectee, but they're responsible for the management of the workforce of their division.  In this episode, you'll hear from retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta, known for his tenure as the Special Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protective Division. The Agent in Charge of a protective division is the agent "over the shoulder" of the protectee. They hear and see it all and, today, you will too. Did you ever wonder what it was like on the ground the night President George W. Bush threw out the first pitch of Game 3 of the World Series in New York in 2001? Wonder no more. Did you ever wonder how the Secret Service gets notified that the President has decided he's going to serve Thanksgiving dinner to troops in an active war zone? Well, we cover that too. Don't miss this chance to get an insider's perspective on some of the most significant moments in recent history, as told by the agent who lived them.    #History #Legacy #Community #Training  #PelotonOne, Deacon = President Carter HMFIC = High MoFo in Charge
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3 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes 36 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
012 - PT 1. Retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta
Every job in the US Secret Service is important and comes with tremendous responsibility. None, however, may come with more responsibility than the Special Agent in Charge of a Protective Division. They are not only ultimately responsible for the safety and security of the Protectee, but they're responsible for the management of the workforce of their division.  In this episode, you'll hear from retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta, known for his tenure as the Special Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protective Division. The Agent in Charge of a protective division is the agent "over the shoulder" of the protectee. They hear and see it all and, today, you will too. Did you ever wonder what it was like on the ground the night President George W. Bush threw out the first pitch of Game 3 of the World Series in New York in 2001? Wonder no more. Did you ever wonder how the Secret Service gets notified that the President has decided he's going to serve Thanksgiving dinner to troops in an active war zone? Well, we cover that too. Don't miss this chance to get an insider's perspective on some of the most significant moments in recent history, as told by the agent who lived them.  #History #Legacy #PowerOfCommunity #Training  #PelotonOne Deacon = President Carter HMFIC = High MoFo in Charge
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3 months ago
1 hour 30 minutes 32 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
011 - Retired Senior Special Agent May Chow
You may call her "Your Honor" but we like to call her "our friend, May". Welcome to the Outside the Secret Service podcast, where we sit down with May Chow, a remarkable retired Senior Special Agent of the United States Secret Service. In this episode, you'll hear May's incredible journey from her early days in law enforcement in San Francisco, to her life on the Vice President's Detail and what happened that day the Vice President accidentally shot his friend and hunting partner. Finally, we'll hear May's tales of operating a small office in Burlington, Vermont and the challenges that presents.  May's career is a testimony of resilience and how good people show up when things go horribly wrong. Listen as she shares candidly about balancing a demanding career with motherhood, handling unforeseen adversities, and the unwavering camaraderie within the Secret Service.   #Resilience #HuntingAccidents #Grit #BouncingForward #MakingMarriagesWork #Sacrifice #BarstoolSports    
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3 months ago
1 hour 23 minutes 25 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
010 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jeff James
In this episode of the Outside the Secret Service, we dive into the remarkable career of Jeff James, a retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the Pittsburgh Field Office. Spanning from 1996 to 2018, Jeff shares his experiences as an agent in the U.S. Secret Service. From helping a former President find a belt at KMart, to assisting in solving a cold case while liason at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Jeff's story is one that would make his hero, Captain America, proud. Jeff served as a Special Advisor on the US House of Representatives Task Force investigating the attempted assassination of, then, former President and Candidate Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.  https://taskforce.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/july13taskforce.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/12-5-2024-Final-Report-Redacted.pdf #Butler #CongressionalCommittee #CaptainAmerica #TwoPittsburghs #NCMEC #Patriotism
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3 months ago
1 hour 53 minutes 15 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
009 - Retired Senior Special Agent Tim Reboulet
Today we sit down with Tim Reboulet, the COO of M6 Global Defense and a retired Senior Special Agent of the United States Secret Service. Tim opens up about his multifaceted career, from navigating complex motorcade routes in Beijing China to the importance of balancing service to country with a personal life. We also dive into pressing topics such as school safety, personal growth, who roots for the better baseball team, and the friendships maintained through such a demanding profession. #We'reReplaceable #Motorcades #BeijingOlympics #SchoolSafety #PostServiceAdjustment #WorkLifeBalance #SFGiants #STLCardinals
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3 months ago
1 hour 30 minutes 10 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
008 - Retired SAIC, Special Agent Tom Landry
Join host and retired Special Agent Jim Holcomb as he delves into the world of the United States Secret Service with his longtime friend and guest, Tom Landry, a retired Special Agent in Charge of the St. Louis Field Office. Celebrating the 160th anniversary of the agency, Tom shares his fascinating journey from his early inspiration shaped by Kennedy-era politics to his unique experiences in government service, first with the US Border Patrol then later with the US Secret Service. Explore Tom's impactful stint as Deputy Special Agent in Charge of the George Bush detail, his innovative contributions to airspace security, and the pivotal moments that defined his career. Gain insights into the demanding life of a Secret Service agent, where protecting dignitaries, adapting to unexpected challenges, and forging strong partnerships are all part of the day's work. This episode offers a candid discussion on the unique blend of protection and investigation missions, the evolving nature of the threats faced, and the importance of leadership in managing one of the world's premier law enforcement agencies. Tune in for an engaging conversation filled with personal anecdotes, professional reflections, and humorous tales from behind the scenes.   #BorderPatrol #TreasuryDetail #AirspaceSecurity #MissionChallenges #EarpieceEnvy #FormerPOTUS #TeamBeijing
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4 months ago
1 hour 53 minutes 10 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
007 - Retired Senior Special Agent Craig Fraser
Craig Fraser was all in on his career in the US Secret Service. He viewed his career not just as a job, but as an outward profession of his core values. He credits his time in the #USArmy for setting his life on a disciplined path. America is a better place for his over 30 years of service to our nation. Oh yeah, he also has one of the most epic challenge coin collections ever assembled. We cover off on that too.  #Sacrifice #TrasformationalVSTransactional #IntelligenceDivision #FlagshipOffice #Texas3Step #ChallengeCoins #Elvis      
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4 months ago
1 hour 26 minutes 50 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
006 - Retired SAIC, Special Agent Ken Valentine
Retired Special Agent in Charge Ken Valentine spent 24 years in the US Secret Service, serving on the Presidential Protective Division for three US Presidents, and retiring as the Agent in Charge for the Dignitary Protective Division. He is a gifted storyteller, public speaker, and author of two books. You can find a link to his website below: https://www.kennethvalentine.com/   #YearbookTheology #DirectionNotPerfection #DrivingTheLimo #PreparationMeetsOpportunity #CongressionalAffairs #Mentoring #Prayer&Faith
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4 months ago
1 hour 59 minutes 42 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
005 - Secret Service Origin Story & Evolution
From chasing counterfeiters through confederate outhouses and doghouses to protecting the President at the White House. The history of the US Secret Service is worth understanding and appreciating. I guarantee you'll learn something new today. Spend a few minutes with us as you learn the origin story of the US Secret Service and how they're still fighting the good fight today. #OriginStory #CivilWar #Counterfeit #Legacy #PayWood #DontRushTowardProtectees
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4 months ago
19 minutes 4 seconds

Outside the Secret Service Podcast
A podcast where the former, fired and retired Agents and Officers of the Secret Service come to share their stories about what it was like to work inside one of America’s most elite law enforcement agencies.