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Out Of Programme
Out Of Programme
16 episodes
3 days ago
The Out Of Programme (OOP) podcast shines a spotlight on clinicians who have ventured beyond the traditional path of clinical training to forge unique and unconventional careers. Hosted by Dr Jing Ouyang, this series delves into the diverse backgrounds, driving motivations and transformative moments that shaped their journeys outside the realm of medicine. Whether you’re a clinician curious about life beyond the white coat or simply fascinated by stories of bold career reinvention, this podcast offers inspiring conversations and thought-provoking insights that go beyond the ordinary.
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The Out Of Programme (OOP) podcast shines a spotlight on clinicians who have ventured beyond the traditional path of clinical training to forge unique and unconventional careers. Hosted by Dr Jing Ouyang, this series delves into the diverse backgrounds, driving motivations and transformative moments that shaped their journeys outside the realm of medicine. Whether you’re a clinician curious about life beyond the white coat or simply fascinated by stories of bold career reinvention, this podcast offers inspiring conversations and thought-provoking insights that go beyond the ordinary.
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Episode 5: Sam Shah on the Fallout with NHSX, Pivoting from Dentistry to Law, and Thriving Outside the System
Out Of Programme
55 minutes 57 seconds
6 months ago
Episode 5: Sam Shah on the Fallout with NHSX, Pivoting from Dentistry to Law, and Thriving Outside the System

Professor Sam Shah has worn more hats than most clinicians ever dream of — dentist, public health leader, NHS digital director, startup founder, and now lawyer. But none of it has been linear.

In this energising, no-holds-barred conversation, Sam reflects on:

  • How being too curious almost got him thrown out of dental school — twice
  • Why he challenged his deans and training programmes (and what he’d do differently now)
  • The realities of navigating NHS hierarchy and its unwritten rules
  • Why he left NHSX and how the politics shaped his next moves
  • Startup life, burnout, and building resilience through lived experience
  • How he juggles regulatory law, urgent care, board work, and still says yes too often!

🎧 A must-listen for anyone questioning the "right" way to build a career in healthcare.


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Out Of Programme
The Out Of Programme (OOP) podcast shines a spotlight on clinicians who have ventured beyond the traditional path of clinical training to forge unique and unconventional careers. Hosted by Dr Jing Ouyang, this series delves into the diverse backgrounds, driving motivations and transformative moments that shaped their journeys outside the realm of medicine. Whether you’re a clinician curious about life beyond the white coat or simply fascinated by stories of bold career reinvention, this podcast offers inspiring conversations and thought-provoking insights that go beyond the ordinary.